I once had a marked deck that was marked with the value and suit in small white letters on the back. For example ace of diamonds had AD on the back. What was the name of this and where can I find another one. It was so easy to read but it wasnt noticiable because it was in plain sight!

Boris Wild or Ted Lesley...

NOTE: This type of mark can not pass the "Gambler Riffle Test".....but, they have other advantantages which I am sure you know about.

It's the lesley....the boris wild deck doesn't have the suit printed....penguin magic has refills for this deck for 6-10.00 I believe.

Thanks,

It might be that the ted lesley was included but it was marketed under a different name or as part of this trick. For some reason I think it was called envelope please or standing ovation? Ive searched for these on hank lee and couldn't find them.

It defintely would be "ENVELOPE PLEASE". I am not too sure who's effect or deck this is. I saw Harry Allen perform it down at Daytona Magic years ago. I know it is for sale on his website ( http://daytonamagic.net/customer/index.c......tId=1579 ). He doesn't really perform it as the site reads but way better. I was stumped the first time I bought this and then when you open it up you are like "..geeez. he got me".

Cheers

Justin

Wow Thanks that's it! Is this similar to the boris wild or lesley decks or totally different?

From what I know, it is the lesley deck, but I may be wrong.

Definitely not like the Boris Wild deck. The BW Deck is something completely different from most marked decks on the market. Granted it will not pass the gambler's riffle test, but would anything other than a "Juiced Deck" do so??

Cheers,

Justin

If the marks were in the center of the card it might.

Luminous marked cards will also pass the gamblers riffle test and can be read from a distance because the marks are large.

Fournier also makes a deck marked as Ted Lesley's.
They were once sold with a booklet, and called the
"DeKram Deck"

Bjørn