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All should recall that Patient One was affiliated with the We Want Your Soul folks, so take heed. And, he refused to meet with Corona on at least one occasion so I don't think he's from North Dakota anymore either.

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Folks, please read Abraxus' post above – he knows what he's talking about.

The first one, not the lard-tears one – though I believe Don Theo III is updating one of his manuscripts to achieve that.
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Good old patient one. Always good for laugh. Never serious about anything. Just tries to see who he can get to respond before he gets his next ban.
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Rabbit out of the Hat straight to the grill!
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Pretending for a second that you really did have a show. And that it was for vegans (we all know you simply don't have such a show, but lets play a long). Would your missing legs present a problem? Also how would they react if you told them a giant Watermelon took off with them?
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Also, avoid performing any material by Eugene 'Burger'.
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I heard that "Animental" by Danny Archer comes in flavored packs now, so you might want to avoid those, haha Smile j/k!
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On 2008-06-02 18:09, coupcoupdaddy wrote:
All should recall that Patient One was affiliated with the We Want Your Soul folks, so take heed. And, he refused to meet with Corona on at least one occasion so I don't think he's from North Dakota anymore either.


I do not understand this at all as I have never been a part of the group mentioned above, whatever that is.
I have never refused to meet anyone called Corona, I don't know what your talking about.

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On 2008-06-02 16:34, abraxus wrote:
By the way, I would suggest you cry little white lard tears until you have enough of them to create a small cow, thus symbolising what we are doing to our bodies, as well as the spiritual side to mass slaughter...


This sounds more like bizarre magic than mentalism, perhaps it will be an e-book. If you cry tears of lard Alan, I think it is probaly time to eat a more healthy diet.

I asked my question in seriousness as when I last performed for a radical vegan group they attacked me when I pulled out my leather wallet, which I had not expected.
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Cold reading not really your forte?

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I asked my question in seriousness as when I last performed for a radical vegan group they attacked me when I pulled out my leather wallet, which I had not expected.


I make special wallets from Hemp. They are a peak, card load, etc wallet. I am sure your pretend group would like it.
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This is not a pretend group and they would be very angered if they heard you say this. Please provide eveidence or reasoning why you would think it is pretend? Do you simply believe that vegan people do not exist??? That is a little bit crazy Nat.
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On 2008-06-03 09:30, Patient One wrote:

I asked my question in seriousness as when I last performed for a radical vegan group they attacked me when I pulled out my leather wallet, which I had not expected.


I make special wallets from Hemp. They are a peak, card load, etc wallet. I am sure your pretend group would like it.


Just don't use them as fire wallets. Smile
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On 2008-06-03 09:30, Patient One wrote:

I asked my question in seriousness as when I last performed for a radical vegan group they attacked me when I pulled out my leather wallet, which I had not expected.


I make special wallets from Hemp. They are a peak, card load, etc wallet. I am sure your pretend group would like it.


Just don't use them as fire wallets. Smile

Well in pretend world there is no fire, so that takes care of that issue. I have had a few of the people try to suck on the wallet, so that of course is gross and kind of slows down the show, but other than that the hemp wallets are great and in Patient Ones pretend world would work out rather well.
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My son is vegan and so are several of my nieces and nephews. I'd still do the Rabbit from Hat to Grill! Smile
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This is not a pretend group and they would be very angered if they heard you say this. Please provide eveidence or reasoning why you would think it is pretend? Do you simply believe that vegan people do not exist??? That is a little bit crazy Nat.


Vegans are real. I have a sister that is a vegan and a cousin. You just are not going to perform for any. that's the not real part.
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On 2008-06-02 15:29, mescalitoeyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure that all the effects I perform are Vegan friendly (by the way, simply using that phrase "whilst treating them like normal people" could do the very thing you are hoping to avoid. I don't see how someone being vegan is going to effect their enjoyment of the superb routines you will no doubt use..
But I believe Mr Redford is Vegan, why not pm him see if he has any advice, you might want to rephrase your question though.

Andy


Vegan's are just like everyone else and eat just like everyone else without the animals. There are different levels of veganism and from person to person extremism may vary. There are radicals in any walk of life that take it to extremes and for this, sadly, veganism has gotten a bad reputation in some circles as we as humans tend to lump things into categories and assume everything in that category is the same.

Some of my best friends are meat eaters and I don't feel the need to customize my show for them. On the other hand, I don't feel the need to customize my show for a Vegan group unless I'm trying to deliver a message on their behalf. This, though, would be my rule for any engagement I work. Now, I am careful about what material is in the show itself as I don't want to offend anyone. The first rule of not offending folks is choosing the material wisely. I'm not speaking about the effects alone but the scripting and bits of business that fall right along side.

In the world we live in, we're all bound to offend someone at some point in time unintentionally or otherwise. While some Vegan's are more vocal and rude than others or are more discrete and polite in promoting their believes, I find the rest of society to be generally consistent in upholding the same strict values.

Something you might not be aware of is that there are some Vegans who don't limit themselves to animal rights alone but extend this to being against cruelty of all living beings.

On the subject of leather goods (wallets, shoes, etc) I personally own and use a genuine leather wallet that I purchased prior to becoming Vegan. While everything else in my wardrobe generally is animal and cruelty free I don't suspect these folks expect you to walk in being anything less or more than your normal show promotes. Now I'm not saying folks wouldn't be offended if you went out of your way to insult. Just be respectful as I assume you would in any like situation. If they hired you, I assume they're familiar with your product. Just relax, we're people and some of us are pretty dang nice too.

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George Tait

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On 2008-06-03 09:30, Patient One wrote:

I asked my question in seriousness as when I last performed for a radical vegan group they attacked me when I pulled out my leather wallet, which I had not expected.


I make special wallets from Hemp. They are a peak, card load, etc wallet. I am sure your pretend group would like it.


I know this was a long time ago and you might not have been serious, but are these wallets real? I'm vegan, and a new magician, and I don't want to buy something cheap or something leather
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