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GeorgeG
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Surgery will not correct any allergies as the problem is an immune issue. Enlarged adenoids, polyps, hypertrophic turbinates, a narrow sinus drainage system can be corrected by surgery as these are anatomical issues, not the genetic driven immune responses to allergens in the environment that is the driving force in allergy sufferers. If anthing, surgery can worsen an allergy sufferer.

Yes, the correct term for "hayfever" is allergic rhinitis. The best approach is flushing out the allergens in the nose, daily use of nasal cortisone spray, or allergy shots to desensitize (but not always effective)
Tom Cutts
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On 2010-06-25 12:41, stoneunhinged wrote:
This year I can't hide in my room suffering, because I have a new dog who needs his walks. I usually take him on 2 2-3 mile walks per day.

So much for going out and exercising.
Smile Walking isn't really exercise. Unless your dogs are taking you for a run, you have not really gotten out and gotten the exercise required.
stoneunhinged
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What! You mean you think I should do something heavy on the cardiovascular side, breathing deep lungfuls of pollinated air?

My goodness.

Not even my hippy leftist vegetarian peacenik healthnut wife has suggested I do that.

But you may have a point.

Next time I have a real fit, I'm doing fifty miles on my bike to see what happens.

Uh, but next year.
Ray Tupper.
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So,exercising in the great outdoors cures hayfever.
What have the doctors been doing all these years?
I'm also gonna stop walking now that I've learn't it's not real exercise.The hours I've wasted!
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A cure for tourettes!
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Dennis Michael
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Are you sure it is hayfever and not asthma? I am dying from a variety of problems starting with asthma, and this point in time it has me full blast in breathing difficulties.

BTW, I never had allergies or asthma until I turned 60.
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Tom Cutts
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Yes Stone, get real exercise in the environment which harbors the offending element. It'll do you good.
MagicSanta
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George, I don't have allergies, when they straightened my nose the doctor said it flushed more effectively so less colds etc. If ya wanna argue with him let me know and I'll give you his name and number.
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On 2010-06-26 01:45, GeorgeG wrote:
The best approach is flushing out the allergens in the nose, daily use of nasal cortisone spray, or allergy shots to desensitize (but not always effective)

I used cortisone spray when I was a lot younger. It didn't really work- my nose was too stuffed for it to get up in my sinuses. When it did get up there, it wrecked my sense of smell (except for strong (or tasty) odors like bacon.)
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GeorgeG
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MagicSanta...it's what I said any - anatomical issue can be corrected with surgery. In your case, you must have had a significantly deviated septum that the operation, called a septoplasty, must have corrected your problem. Some surgeons will also perform what is called turbinate reduction, that will also further improve air flow through the nose when the septoplasty is done.

EsnRedshirt...cortisone nasal spray should work, unless 1) it's not an allergy problem or 2)there is so much allergy inflammation in there that there isn't enough cortisone in the spray to ever reverse it, so a very high dose is needed to bring the inflammation down to a manageable level. This means a cortisone injection (Kenalog or Solumedrol) or cortisone pills (Prednisone or Medrol) for 5 to 10 days.
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Got some Allegra D and you will be fine.
MagicSanta
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Dats what I had! A septoplasty.
Al Angello
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Doctor GeorgeG
The 10 mg of Loratadine that I do every morning no longer works. My eyes water, nose runs, and I sneeze a lot. My wife tells me to ask my family doctor for generic Alegra 180mg. I need the generic because of the price, and the Loratadine no longer works for me. Could I have a free diagnosis please?
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GeorgeG
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Antihistamines "mask" not heal allergies...much like cough medicine helps with the coughing in a bronchitis, but does not heal the bronchitis. This is why they eventually fail to help in the long run, as the allergy inflammation continues to progress. Antihistamines were really designed as temporary relief, not for long term management.

IF you have to continue with an antihistamine, try rotating every 6 weeks. Loratadine and cetirizine (generic for Zyrtec) are available with NO prescription. These two can be taken twice a day, if needed. Chlorpheniramine 4mg (older and cheap, over the counter antihistamine) is especially great for runny nose, postnasal drip, or throat clearing due to a property called "anticholinergic" that is not found in the newer antihistamines. It comes in 4mg tablets and can be taken 1-2 at bedtime, but can cause daytime drowsiness and not recommended if you have an enlarged prostate.
Ray Tupper.
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George,what's your opinion on Toms,running round in a field full of pollen,cure?
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Al Angello
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Thank you very much Doctor George.
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