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Good at least the joke got across LOL.
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Now we need to get Rosie O'Donel and Hillary Clinton's names into this.

BTW Wasn't intelligent design almost wiped out by Sadam's weapons of mass distruction?
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A couple of minor comments.

The bald-headed guy interviewing Ben Stein, the one on-screen to the right of Ben, in the video at the link I posted is Kevin O'Leary.

I knew he was a rich guy, an angel investor, but I didn't realise just how rich until I looked him up this afternoon. Turns out the guy sold his software company 'The Learning Company' to Mattel for $3.7 billion a few years back.

If he's so successful and supposedly so smart, I wish he would have done a better job with the interview.

The other thing I learned today about Expelled was that it was financed by Walt Ruloff, an evangelical software millionaire from Vancouver. So it appears you can 'Blame Canada' for that movie.

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I blame folks who can't take a joke.
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And in other news, a survey of over 30,000 people finds that 20% of self-identified atheists believe in God. Things that make you go...HUH?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg......AKBJ.DTL
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On 2008-06-24 18:05, LobowolfXXX wrote:
And in other news, a survey of over 30,000 people finds that 20% of self-identified atheists believe in God. Things that make you go...HUH?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg......AKBJ.DTL


There's either something way wrong with that survey, or more people than I thought have no idea what 'atheism' means (or a lot of people like lying on surveys, take your pick).

Either way, further proof that most surveys are useless.
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Actually, if you want something really scary ... look at the premise that science can do without hypotheses, testing and even peer review as on could just as well let heuristics loose on the data and evolve rules which describe the data and predict new findings.
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On 2008-06-24 18:05, LobowolfXXX wrote:
And in other news, a survey of over 30,000 people finds that 20% of self-identified atheists believe in God. Things that make you go...HUH?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg......AKBJ.DTL


There's either something way wrong with that survey, or more people than I thought have no idea what 'atheism' means (or a lot of people like lying on surveys, take your pick).

Either way, further proof that most surveys are useless.

How do you figure? Did you read the article? The fact that 21% of self-defined atheists believe in God DOES tell you something useful ... just not what you were expecting.
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It does indeed tell you something of value LOL.
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Of course I believe in God, just not the particular version some want me to.
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Payne, the debate is far from over. Darwinists are, quite frankly, on shaky ground, and they know it. And many freely admit it. The fossil record is a very weak support to fall back on for Darwinists. In fact, it hurts them more than it helps them.

Darwin himself said "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

This has been demonstrated in the microbiological world. A world that Darwin himself could not observe.
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I'm THRILLED to have this thread resurrected. Thanks! Illucifer, have a beer:

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I would not know about "Darwinists". I do feel however that a "designer" who's designed and set loose so many species which have gone extinct seems remarkably cruel or worse - incompetent. And so on this matter I have to side with a preference for the random over the willful bordering on evil.

This of course does not in any way invalidate a claim that the world came into existence just last tuesday with all the things and people and their memories brought in by design... or just a moment ago.
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On 2008-09-20 12:39, Illucifer wrote:

Darwin himself said "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."

This has been demonstrated in the microbiological world.

I've yet to hear or read of any verifiable examples of this. Indeed, every such 'example' that has ever been brought to my attention appears to have been either inconclusive or later verified as false.

So if you have a good example, please share it.
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On 2008-06-20 14:04, Dannydoyle wrote:
Same arguements different day.


Indeed, which is why this thread won't make it past the weekend. Especially if you know who comes in here and starts pushing you know what around. Smile


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On 2008-09-20 12:39, Illucifer wrote:
Payne, the debate is far from over. Darwinists are, quite frankly, on shaky ground, and they know it. And many freely admit it. The fossil record is a very weak support to fall back on for Darwinists. In fact, it hurts them more than it helps them.


Citations please. Or is this just your opinion? Please direct me to the references you have that show that the fossil record is looked upon by "Darwinists" (whatever those are) as being weak or that it hurts them more than it helps.
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Darwin himself said "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."


This has been demonstrated in the microbiological world. A world that Darwin himself could not observe.


Ahh, the old canard of irreducible complexity. Pretty much has been proven to be false. See the Dover Trial transcripts for a complete refutation of it. It's really important to keep up with the journals.

Here, look at this as it explains modern evolutionary theory quite nicely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ
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