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feher Inner circle Michigan 1421 Posts |
"The routines in MCM are just not my style in the way they are executed."
What is inside Bobo's book are your building blocks to coin magic. Even though you say they are not your style of execution what ever that means....lol They are moves that you need to get yourself accustom too. If you don't like how something is done but like the structure then work out your own using the same plot or structure. There is so many possibilties in that book alone it should keep you busy for a long time. Add this trick and that trick making a longer routine out of many tricks in the book. Remember the moment you say your good at something is the moment you quit learning, in my eyes I will never master a sleight or routine I have failed the moment I do. Good luck and keep an open mind. Tim
Mean people SUCK!!!!!!!
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The Amazing Noobini Inner circle Oslo, Norway 1658 Posts |
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On 2008-07-02 20:29, Dynamike wrote: Dynamike brings up a valid point, one that has been the subject of many discussions and fights here in the past. Some people, myself included get a lot less from reading a book like Bobo's than from watching a DVD. And many instant downloads will not explain sleights fully since the guys who release these tricks do not have permissions to fully teach the techniques of the pros. So there are references to numerous books and DVDs that you cannot afford and sometimes even to old magazine articles that are no longer in print. I would suggest getting a basic DVD course. (This is the level where I am myself with coins). If you already know some of the stuff there, then that is a good thing as you will quickly pick up small nuances to it that you may have missed. Or new uses for it. If you don't know it then you will find it fully taught through multiple angles. No references to outside material which isn't explained either on the DVD or in Bobo's which you already have. Check out this review: http://erlandish.blogspot.com/2006/12/re......vds.html
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holo New user 64 Posts |
I like books for learning the sleights originally, but when I am learning a routine, I find it a whole lot easier to understand how the sleights come together on a video. so pretty much either way. I'm going to go to my magic shop in a week or two and ask david roth
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Holo,
It's sorta hard to develop your own style first. I mean until you have more better explored what's already out there, to come to any conclusions as to what you need to learn or not is not optimum. The way it works best is to learn first and then develop your own style of things. It's very hard to do it the other way around and actually quite unnecessary. For instance before Bill Gates did what he did with computers, he learned the rudimentary stuff first, practiced it, ect., before putting together his own thing eventually. But when he got there, you better believe that he had gone through what others had done, succeeded at, failed at, etc., in developing his own thing. I know you have done some things but really there's so much more to this stuff and that's why I tell you to take it slow first. If you have developed a new 3-Fly or one that works for you then fine but really there's so much to learn about that particular genre of coin effect, it would blow your mind. You may or may not know that the guy that actually started all that is a member right here on the Café...He came up with the initial premise of the great effect long ago...Did you know that? If you don't then my point is made. It's sorta like when an old magician at Tannen's in NYC once told me when I showed him a trick, he said to slow down kid and really learn to do the trick before you show it. There was a lot of wisdom in those words from then to now. Good luck to you my friend. -Mb
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holo New user 64 Posts |
Thank you guys, ill take everything youve said into consideration as I begin to explore the wonderful world of coin magic.
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MMAgicMan New user Fairfax, VA 84 Posts |
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On 2008-07-02 15:10, wunceaponatime wrote: To add on to this, I'd say learn Roth's shell coins across either through his lecture notes or the World's Greatest Magic Shell DVD.
Dalton Jones
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holo New user 64 Posts |
Does anyone recommend one specific trick that I should really concentrate on and of course perform if asked to perform?
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Not sure at this point that anyone is going to ask you to perform any specific trick. So just do the stuff you like and I'm sure if you do it well, people will enjoy it. There are effects that work in most settings. For instance I walk around a lot at my office and like showing effects that I can do standing up as I'm on the move. So a Coins Across works well, so does a Spellbound-type effect. A Copper/silver tansposition, along with a coin for some vanishes and reproduction or for a One Coin Routine is really all you need. People like seeing these effects, they are time-tested and classic effects - simply they work! I do them all and have work out there that includes something on most of them. And there are gaffed classics as well that amaze. Some require sleights, others anyone can do with minimal practice.
Might also be good to carry a couple of simple card effects that play big, like a B'wave. Of course the Vanishing Hankie blows people away, etc., and these things can neatly break up the coin effects I mentioned above. These 6 little effects pack small and play big when you do them well. There's a thousand things out there you can do and you'll come to make your own bag of tricks but it don't take a lot to always be prepared. Oh and mix it up and don't show people the same effect over and over as per any request. Tell them you don't have that one but check out this one...
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holo New user 64 Posts |
Thanks a lot MB, I don't know any spellbounds yet, but I really like the idea of a simple coins across along with a one coin routine. those are just examples if I want to do coins. Don't worry, I'm not relying on only doing these tricks.
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MMAgicMan New user Fairfax, VA 84 Posts |
Another classic effect that never fails to get great reactions in the Matrix. It can be used as a transition from cards to coins and vice versa.
Dalton Jones
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holo New user 64 Posts |
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On 2008-07-05 13:42, MMAgicMan wrote: I prefer the matrix without cards, but still, that's a good idea |
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