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Donal Chayce
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Well, part of the beauty of the Bill Smith prop is that you don't have to worry about properly balancing the person on the board. You can have them lie down so that it appears that only their neck is being supported by the chair, and they still remain horizontal. Actually, they remain slightly higher than horizontal--an important point in the original Harbin routine.

IMO that helps to minimize the impression that the illusion is simply a balancing stunt.
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Ummm.... just my opinion..

But of course its a balancing stunt. If it were not, and the audience does think this, you'd take the other chair away....
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Donal: That is part of my point my friend. =) many folks do not even have the person situated so their neck is being supported by the top of the chair. They tend to above the person too far forward with the head on the board and this makes for an awkward look and feel. it does not sell the notion or illusion of suspension well.

Now with the Smith version, having he person too far forward would not effect the sag you often see with the other models like mak or Sommers. However, if you are using Mak or Sommer's version, then you really do need to have proper placement so that you minimize or take the sag out completely.

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Hi

If you are looking for a great chair suspension you should look at this model:
http://www.pro-magic.com/shop/product.ph......0&page=1
This model can hold not only a child but an adult!
The chairs are made from wood and look normal, packed in a soft carrying bag.
If you are interesting PM me, I have a set for sale.
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Thanks for the link and information. I have researched and used many models before ranging from Mak to Sommer's to the Bill Smith version but have never come across this model before.

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I have both versions .. no comparism bill smith is the way to go .
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On 2008-08-28 09:28, eb02 wrote:
Hi

If you are looking for a great chair suspension you should look at this model:
http://www.pro-magic.com/shop/product.ph......0&page=1
This model can hold not only a child but an adult!
The chairs are made from wood and look normal, packed in a soft carrying bag.
If you are interesting PM me, I have a set for sale.


Looks good. I see no swaying.
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Hi

I saw plans for this illusion on eBay.
I do not know the quality.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Chair-Suspen-worksho......8Q2em122
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This is only my professional opinion, but I would never try and build my own chair suspension. There are just too many factors that have to be just perfect for it to really work and function well and be a safe illusion. Also, by the time you get the supplies and then find a welder ec., you could have just bought a new one for the same price. A good quality chair suspension will run you $450 US on average. One good gig pays the entire thing off. I would much rather go in that direction.

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I 100% agree with what kyle is saying but he asked if there are any plans...
I have my set that I am working with for over 15 years, I do not know from who is it but it works great.
I recommend on the model sold by pro magic (see my link before). If someone is interesting I can arrange a new set for good price.

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Oh sure I can understand someone wanting plans and they are out there. Just go at it very carefully is all. It is way too easy to build this wrong.

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