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trouser New user Texas 82 Posts |
Over the last year, I have really begun to fall in love with sponge ball magic. I bought several "highly recommended" sponge ball DVDs a while ago to try to get some new ideas. Unfortunately, they all pass off the same old material (i.e. ten-count vanish, coin purse frame, finger saw-in-half, etc). I was wondering if anyone either
a) has any fresh ideas to incorporate these basic sleights into new routines, or b) can direct me to a book/DVD that has more creative ideas. For example: Here is a short routine that I came up with a couple weeks ago that I'm currently polishing (I don't know if it has been done before): I call this the "Tomato Garden" routine. 1) You start with a large seed, which is "planted" in your hand via your favorite vanish. 2) Then you "sprinkle" some invisible, magic soil over your hand and add some sunlight (I am using a D'Lite TT to add the sunlight). 3) Your hand is opened to reveal a small green tomato (green 1.5-inch sponge ball) 4) Since this tomato isn't ripe yet, you then put it into a spectator's hand to further incubate. 5) Add more "soil" and "sunlight" to the spectator's hand and then have them open it to reveal a larger red tomato (red 2-inch sponge ball) 6) (optional) can be repeated once more to reveal an even larger tomato (red 3-inch). 7) You can then finish it off by "eating" it. Also, does anyone know of a good place to get other sponge shapes (perhaps other types of fruit shapes, animals, etc)? Thanks guys! |
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WayneCapps Special user Charleston, SC 769 Posts |
Thanks for the routine. I have purchased several unique sponge shapes at magicauction.com. I was able to get them pretty cheap.
Wayne Capps
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Doctor Xombie Regular user FL (formerly Planet X) 109 Posts |
I can't help here, but I am also interested in what others can offer as advice.
That sounds like a good idea for a routine. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
There is a fellow from Canada who makes some incredible sponge ball figures. I don't recall his last name. His first name is Henry. Last name may be Mirkovich. I see him at the IBM conventions. If I see him, I'll get his contact info.
There was a really good sponge routine called "Ladybugs," if I remember correctly. It used half sponge balls that had been decorated with a Sharpie to look like ladybugs. If you want some really unusual "new" sponge ball magic, get The Sponge Book from Magic. Inc. It is so old that it is new.
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
Patrick Martin's "Clones" (marketed long ago)
Ron Bauer's "Clones From Brazil" (Genii magazine, adapting the above) Roger Klause's "Sponge Up the Sleeve" (Ammar's Encore 3 or Roger Klause In Concert) for starters...
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I saw Henry yesterday. He is out of the sponge business, Ah, well!
"The Swatter"
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Experimentalist Veteran user 356 Posts |
Hi Bill,
Do you know of a source for the ladybug sponge routine. That sounds like a nice premise. |
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
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On 2008-07-22 23:54, Experimentalist wrote: How about you? Ladybugs multiply and fly away home. Start there.
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Experimentalist Veteran user 356 Posts |
I agree, but I like to buy the source of the idea from the author if at all possible.
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magicbob116 Inner circle 1522 Posts |
Scott Guinn's "Peanut Butter & Jelly" sponge ball routine is a good one.
B. Robert Pulver
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2008-07-23 10:04, magicbob116 wrote: True. Also check out Dean Dill's Intimate Miracles, Patrick Page's Sponge Magic, Carl Andrew's routine on his cups DVD, and john carney's simple routine. all have great ideas to consider. I usually SKIP the cute stories and just do the trick unless the story is brief, very funny, and has a good surprise at the end. In my opinion, any long and involved story, unless expertly written and perfomed will have an audience begging for its conclusion. The risk in telling a story is that the story ends up being more important than the audience. The audience is just listening instead of participating. Unless you're hilarious or can bring tears to their eyes, the story trick can often die a fiery death.
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
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On 2008-07-23 11:42, Frank Starsini wrote: OK Frank, I get the hint. I'll write for you.
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Kozmo V.I.P. 5473 Posts |
Thanks Josh!
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
This is like Deja Vu all over again except this time I'm Kozmo.
What the heck????
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DreadPirate_AJ New user 23 Posts |
About a year or two ago I wanted to find some really good sponge material, and I came across this same problem. Bill is right, The Sponge Book had some very creative stuff.
weird is part of the job
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darkhawk New user 39 Posts |
Hello
I am in the same boat I love the sponge balls I am sorry but I cannot get enuff of them and looking around buying up all the same materieal content with different packageing. yet I keep doing it. don't we all? I have a good collection of more recent sponge dvds and books (nothing old sadly) BUT I had an eye opener when I got jay sankys Ear plugs. its the same old stuff plus some ear plug slights and it was enjoyable and kind fun BUT at some point it really actually hit me, he wanted to re-invent the sponge ball in these earplugs... fine. But what this did for me was made me stop hunting for help and start making my own. I think of what I want to do and creat my own slights or utalize old ones to make the effect. start with the effect and think "or now how can I pull that off" I use a highlight and a black marker to change the colour of the ball ie leaking the colour, or the bad sponge ball story turning all balls black, hungly sponges growing into big sponges... to name a few, ((working on a real good one the maybe more to come to seceret to tell yet)) I love the tomato idea and also the martins or "here there balls" or whatever. all and all something clicked for me in that video like it did for me back when I was only a card worker and now I use the videos to reminde me of moves and leave the routines and real ideas to me, and I sure feel good in the end when I know this is MINE. Good luck and that my 2 cents and I hope you get something out of it. worlds greatist magicians sponge and sponge encyclopedia are my favs. |
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Mitch Winkler New user 5 Posts |
I actually posted this as a separate topic, but have worked up a "Germ Routine" since much of my performing is done on a volunteer basis in the pediatric ward of a local hospital. It's really a segue from me needing to disinfect my hands to my spongeball opener, where I tell the kid I have to kill the germs:
"Cause they're everywhere" (produce from air or behind kid's ear) "Dividing" (split production of second ball) "Incubating and growing" (one becomes two in spectators hand) "And you can't get rid of them" (classic two in hand one in pocket phase) "Without a little disinfectant" (final phase where I remove small spray bottle from right pocket during ditch, spray closed left fist, then show it empty) Honstly I haven't used this patter line yet, but will try it out this weekend and let you know how it goes. |
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Juliegel Loyal user 294 Posts |
I am looking for something to end my routine. Does anyone know where to find the really large sponges. I am talking 10 to 12 inches. I have seen them before so I know I am not crazy. Any help would be appreciated.
Juliegel |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2008-07-22 23:54, Experimentalist wrote: I purchased several of them a while back, and still may have a few that weren't opened. It was an interesting premise, but it may not have really captured the essence of the sponge ball. I don't want to discourage originality, but really good sponge ball routines seldom refer to the "spongeness" of the balls. Learn technique. Keep learning it. Sure, you have seen the 10 count many times, but how many times has your audience seen it? Most spectators have NEVER seen a live magician, much less a sponge ball routine. Why tomatoes? Why not Tribbles? Why not hairballs from a rubber cat? How about a seat cushion for a toadstool? The best sponge ball variations have stayed with the ball rather than going into other forms, with one exception -- the sponge bunnies. Look for surprise endings. If you don't know the Jaks ending or the Burger variant, you haven't studied the sponges enough. Really. Don't make excuses for your props. Learn how to use them. Most of the "innovative" sponge ball routines are simply twists on old material. Also, pay attention to who produced the DVD. Jules De Barros used to spend 5 minutes making excuses for the sponge balls. He told people they were the lining of a captured Luftwaffe craft from WW II. Most people would have walked away if they had not been seated at table.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2008-08-21 13:32, Juliegel wrote: The biggest marketed sponge is 7 inches.
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