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daffelglass
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http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=636

I saw this effect on Penguin, and I have to say that I'm tempted. This seems like a very nice ace assembly, and I really enjoy the fact that a card changes under the spectators hand at the end.

But.

I have learned not to trust preview videos and descriptions. Can anyone tell me more about this effect?
Does it use gaffed cards?
Does it use a hidden gimmick?
Does it require set up?
Is it one time use?
Is it worth it (its only 12 bucks)?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Daniel,

Obviously we are not going to divulge methods. That being said, I have seen and learned Ace Assemblies even stronger than that from books. I am not a believer in one trick pony DVDs. But, that is MY preference. I do not know your skill level, but I still think your needs would be better served investing either in good books, or the better high end DVD sets out there.

A FEW suggestions out of thousands:

Apocalypse - Lorayne
Best of Friends - Lorayne
Classic Collection v.1 (volume 2 due out soon) Lorayne
Approaching Magic - Regal
The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings - Maxwell
Focus - Maven
Tarbell Course in Magic - Tarbell
Card College - Giobbi
The Impossible Magic of Simon Aronson - Aronson (DVD)
Smoke and Mirrors - Bannon
Dear Mr. Fantasy - Bannon
Overlap - Jay (book and DVD) (Note: Lots of nice effects in Overlap, and MUCH cleaner than what I just watched from the link you gave)
Out of Control - Kenner
Collected Almanac - Kaufman
Try the Impossible - Aronson
Card Magic Companion - Gordon
Protean Card Magic - Gordon
Nocturnal Creations - Gordon
Scams and Fantasies with Cards - Ortiz
Cardshark - Ortiz
Ortiz At The Card Table - Ortiz
Stars of Magic - published by Tannen's originally
Card Craft - Hartman (VERY hard to find but well worth it)
Card Dupery, After Craft, Trickery Treats - three more from Hartman
Session - Joel Givens
Royal Treatment - McDaniel (out of print but WELL worth the search. Come on Robert, reprint it!!)
R. Paul Wilson's Royal Road to Card Magic DVD set - Wilson
Expert Card Magic Lecture Notes - Piacente (DVD)
The Card Magic of Nick Trost - Trost

A VERY short list. Trust me Smile But, if you are enamoured of Assemblies, you will find some beauties in most of the above mentioned titles plus a WHOLE lot more!!

You might want to compare Josh Jay's Overlap to that Penguin effect and judge for yourself. It seems FAR more versatile and Josh puts out a quality product based on YEARS of experience. The man is a prodigy.

Again, I do not know how long you have been into the Art, so it is difficult for me to give more substantive suggestions. If you are relatively new to the Art, I would advise you to invest in books as I said at the beginning. For that same 12.00, there are some classics out there that will give you so much more. If you are a veteran, then it should be easy for you to judge that Penguin effect.

Best,
Vlad
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You left out my favorite: Duvivier's Progressive Ace Assembly.

Best regards....
Glenn Godsey
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On 2008-07-16 12:02, Glenn Godsey wrote:
You left out my favorite: Duvivier's Progressive Ace Assembly.

Best regards....
Glenn Godsey


Deepest apologies Glenn. I realised after I started making that list - which was never meant to be comprehensive - that I could have shortened the post dramatically by merely saying "Buy books".

Anyhow, another great suggestion for you daffelglass!

Best,
Vlad
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Thanks for the recommendations, ill look into as many as I can
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Daniel, To answer your query more directly, there is a lot of prep involved in UAA. For a very powerful ace assembly with much less hassle, I suggest a version of "McDonald's $100 Aces" or Bob Kohler's "Aces in Their Faces". John
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I've purchased the UAA from Penguin and while it's good, I would recommend Aces in Their Faces.
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I have problems with aces in their faces, just flipping the piles directly over at the end seems to tip the method, or at least to magicians. Most of the time I can't really do much set-up when I'm performing, so I guess I'll just stick to marlo's impromptu ace assembly for now.
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Dream of Aces, available from Camirand, is a good routine.

I'd also recommend Wesley James' LSD Aces.

Another fine assembly is David Solomon's Odd Backed Aces to the Fourth Power, which actually uses aces with different coloured backs.
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Aces in their Faces is wonderful... even to magicians (at least when the method wasn't widely known)... Don't underestimate using something so subtle to fool people. But I'll have to agree with Vlad on going with books... you get so much bang for the buck with books.
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On 2008-07-17 10:02, daffelglass wrote:
I have problems with aces in their faces, just flipping the piles directly over at the end seems to tip the method, or at least to magicians. Most of the time I can't really do much set-up when I'm performing, so I guess I'll just stick to marlo's impromptu ace assembly for now.


Daffelglass: Then come up another way to do the final revelation at the end Smile Remember, you are not locked in. That being said, I wouldn't worry about tipping the method to magicians. They don't pay the bills (unless you are a lecturer) the non-magicians do - if you perform.

Kex: Thanks for joining me on the books crusade Smile

Best,
Vlad
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Does any body know where aces in their faces is published? The ungaffed version. I have the gimicked one, and love it. but also having seen Ricky Jay do his, I cant help but want to learn. Thanks
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On 2008-07-26 22:55, shortdog wrote:
Does any body know where aces in their faces is published? The ungaffed version. I have the gimicked one, and love it. but also having seen Ricky Jay do his, I cant help but want to learn. Thanks


If you are referring to the "Exclusive Coitere" routine that Ricky Jay does with the four queens... that is simply a "MacDonald's Aces" (done with queens rather than aces) handling. Try doing searches for "MacDonald's Aces" and you should find plenty. If you feel the need to do a routine with queens (or some other card value) just purchase a DF deck for the requisite cards.

Cheers, Wes
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Ricky Jay's story for MacDonald's Aces is really funny. I may adapt it for my routine.
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Daffelglass, if you liked the patter, you may want to look up a book by someone called "Erdnase".
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Oh....right....
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Here is my "Progressive Ace Assembly" Routine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b5_vFkxYmI

I hope you enjoy.
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DJ, I checked out your clip. Nice work on the progressive assembly.
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Dj, nice ace assembly.
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Thanks!
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