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He uses several different techniques.
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On 2009-11-14 14:06, Bo J wrote:
I believe that this routine is one of the better and very direct:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xejx3_indianstreetmagic

I agree.
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It seems that the T-palm is used instead of the C-palm. It seems much easier to use the T-palm.

He uses c-palm only. He is so perfect in in his job. There is a phrase among cups and balls "through ball". This means quickly insert c-palmed ball into the cup. This move is different from how Steve Dacri inserts balls into cups.

Indian street magicians don't learn many tricks. They learn and perform only 3-5 routines in their entire life. Most of them learn magic from their parents.

The cup used by this magician is kitchen utensil.

Any one know who is this magician?
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Offering bowls are a wonderful tip, Pete. Thanks!

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Finally got a chance to watch this performer. He really does the loading to perfection. Thanks for posting.
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Very interesting thread and full of information. I have seen a magician perform Indian Cups and Balls with chicken in Jaipur. It was amazing.

Anyone interested in seeing a street magician in Delhi must go to Kathputli Colony. It is a slum though, but full of street artists. Even Ishammuddin, the Indian magician who revived the first part of India Rope Trick, lives here.

Where can I get the Pete Biro book on Indian Cups and Balls?
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I would hazard a guess that you could get it from Pete Biro. Just send him a private message.
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Just wanted to share that per Pete Biro's suggestion, I found three brass butter lamps/offering bowls. The extra small size is 2.5 inches in diameter and 2 inches high. It works great, and three will set you back a scant $18 plus shipping.
http://tibetantreasures.com/tthtml/ttmer......mps.html

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Thanks for that link, Neil!

If you get these, you really need to buy Pete Biro's book on the Indian Cups & Balls! I do believe (correct me, Pete, if I am mistaken), that there is an extra tip on using the top of the cup as a hold-out! A most valuable book, in my opinion.

Pete had a similar set he used to sell, and the book that came with it, describes that feature in detail. Pete's web page is:

http://www.petebiro.com

Pete just posted that, "...in one of Eddie Joseph's routines he suggests using baby bottle NIPPLES instead of balls." What a GREAT idea! I'm going to look into that. Plus, if you are looking for a very classy, wooden set of Indian Cups, this site has them marked down from $80 to $10! I just bought them, and I'm so glad I did! What a find! (It's the cups only, balls are not included) Check 'em out:

http://magic4less.com/Merchant5/merchant......ode=CLUP

They're probably not going to last long, so I'd hurry!

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Excuse me, but I should add, that these wooden cups have the Chop Cup feature!
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On 2010-10-07 13:58, Dougini wrote:
Excuse me, but I should add, that these wooden cups have the Chop Cup feature!


I already posted this on another cups and balls thread here at the Café, but I want to reiterate my thanks to Dougini for the link to the great bargain on the wooden Hindu cups. All 3 are chopped, and they look great! For $11.99!?

But now my regular combo cup balls are too big. The wooden Hindu cups are rather small. The "one" ball won't dislodge. I'm going to have to get cork balls from the local hobby shop and gimmick one, I think.
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On 2010-10-16 18:36, Amazin Doug wrote:
...I want to reiterate my thanks to Dougini for the link to the great bargain on the wooden Hindu cups. All 3 are chopped, and they look great! For $11.99!?

But now my regular combo cup balls are too big. The wooden Hindu cups are rather small. The "one" ball won't dislodge. I'm going to have to get cork balls from the local hobby shop and gimmick one, I think.


My pleasure Doug! They are a bargain! I hope to eventually get cork balls and gaff them, but I found some little pom poms that work great! I bought a sash with three different colors, and snipped four of them off, and man...what a great little set!

I have been practicing with them, and it's just a matter of time. They look nice on a shelf, as well! Some kind of exotic wood, too. Very, very nice!
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I hope to eventually get cork balls and gaff them, but I found some little pom poms that work great! I bought a sash with three different colors, and snipped four of them off, and man...what a great little set!


I went to a local hobby shop looking for the cork balls and found several sizes of wooden balls as well as some small wooden eggs. (All unpainted.) They also had several sizes of pom poms in various colors.

The pom poms look great. I still need to gimmick the wood balls to see whether they're too heavy.
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Doug, Dougini, please drop me an e-mail. You can get my e-mail address from my profile. I may have the solution for you.
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Thanks, Bill, Shot ya an email!
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Nanu was referred to earlier in the thread; I've just seen his performance of the cups and balls; it was lovely.
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On 2010-10-19 22:25, Bill Palmer wrote:
Doug, Dougini, please drop me an e-mail. You can get my e-mail address from my profile. I may have the solution for you.


Bill you have provided the BEST solution!! Thank you so much! I am so grateful! Smile

Doug
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On 2009-11-05 10:40, Keith Mitchell wrote:

One thing that stood out to me more than anything else among all those videos of Indian style C&Bs is the way their hands moved. It's as if they were all taught by the same teacher or something. Makes me wonder what would happen if they were to try the classic Dai Vernon C&Bs routine?



Unlike the western performer who is more inclined on exclusivity and originality, the Indian performer is told my his mentor to learn the moves to perfection. The word for it is sadhana. The Indian performer is not much worried about being original but in getting it exactly the way he is taught. I am not sure if he is able to learn all the 64 original moves. But the few he learns are to perfection.
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I noticed 64 is a recurring number in Sanskrit literature, so is 128.
I don't think the number 64 should be taken literally as the number of moves.
I know if you ask the few who are left in India with this skill, they still will tell you 64.
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