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On 2011-12-12 00:41, Magic Researcher wrote:
...some might be interested in the Historic Indian Cups routine and moves but not interested in doing the original routine. Perhaps some are interested in developing their own original routine utilizing Western moves as well as Eastern moves in a stand up situation using whatever they want for cups. There is nothing wrong with that.


You're right. However, I am interested in learning 'Cheppum Panthum'. I have already done Cups & Balls, and am interested in the 5000 year old routine. I would like to perform the routine Gary does. Nothing wrong with doing Cups & Balls, or Hindu Cups & Balls your way. I, however, am interested in the 'Cheppum Panthum' way of doing things...

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I agree with Doug. You can do the Indian Cups effect anyway you like. But I feel to fully understand the effect as to the how, why? It is a very good idea to study the whole history and the original ways of doing it. If you don't study all of that. It is possible to leave some key ingredient out of your own routine that would make it work a lot better for you. Magicians like Ricky Jay Eric Decamps etc.... Have been known to not put effects into their performances for a year or more till they have not only perfected the effect but studied all that they can on just that one item.
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Please find herebelow a bibliographical summary of the Indian Cups and Balls routines in English and French
Theo. Bamberg (Okito): Cups and Balls - Indian Conjuring The Sphinx Vol 24 N° 7 p 209 © Sept 1925
Joe Berg: The Chinese Cups and Balls © 1928 Princess Magic Shop
Pete Biro: The Indian Cups and Balls © 2008 Pete Biro
Major L. H. Branson: Indian Conjuring p 16 © 1922
Steve Dacri: Indian Cups and Balls; The Magic of Steve Dacri - No Filler! Vol 2 DVD © L&L Publishing
Elbiquet: The Indian Cups And Balls p 137 in Supplementary Magic © 1917
Les Greenhalgh: Indian Cups and Balls Routine Swami Issue 31 © 1974 Sam Dalal and © 1997 Richard Kaufman
Edwin Hotz: The East Indian Cups and Balls in The Sphinx Vol. 38 N° 3 © May 1939
P. K. Ilango: Indian Cups and Balls © 1983 Supreme Know How Series
Eddie Joseph: Sleights, Moves and Subterfuges – series by Eddie Joseph - The Hindu Cups; Max Andrews’ Magic Magazine: Vol 3 N° 11 © Feb 1955 p 294 & Magic and mysteries of India © 1962 Abbott's Magic Manufacturing Co
Jack Karlow: La Magie de salon par l'adresse manuelle : le close-up © 1989 J. Karlow 10, rue Commandant-Mages, 13001 Marseille (France)
Solyl Kundu: Indian Cups and Balls, Nu Style My Kind of Magic © 2007 p 26
Alma [Maurice Méjean]: Le jeu des Gobelets © 1945 Mayette Magie Moderne
Charlie Miller: The Indian Cups and Balls in Genii Vol 33 N° 3 © Nov 1968 and 4 Dec 1968
Rink (Aka J. Van Rinkhuyzen): The Indian Cups and Balls in Genii Vol. 29, N° 9 May 1965 & Rink's Magic from Holland p 29 © 1968 Hugh Miller Unique Magic Studios
Shankar Junior The Complete Cups and Balls © 1998 Michael Ammar and L&L Publishing; p. 120 the Indian cups and balls
P.C. Sorcar: Manipulations of the Indian Cups and Balls © 1933 P.C. Sorcar
Ellis Stanyon: Original Lessons in Magic: The Indian Cups; Magic Magazine Vol X N° 5 p 33 © Feb 1910 Ellis Stanyon

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Ellis Stanyon: Original Lessons in Magic: The Indian Cups; Magic Magazine Vol X N° 5 p 33 © Feb 1910 Ellis Stanyon
Elbiquet: The Indian Cups And Balls p 137 in Supplementary Magic © 1917
Major L. H. Branson: Indian Conjuring p 16 © 1922
Theo. Bamberg (Okito): Cups and Balls - Indian Conjuring The Sphinx Vol 24 N° 7 p 209 © Sept 1925
Joe Berg: The Chinese Cups and Balls © 1928 Princess Magic Shop
P.C. Sorcar: Manipulations of the Indian Cups and Balls © 1933 P.C. Sorcar
Edwin Hotz: The East Indian Cups and Balls in The Sphinx Vol. 38 N° 3 May 1939
Alma [Maurice Méjean]: Le jeu des Gobelets © 1945 Mayette Magie Moderne
Eddie Joseph: Sleights, Moves and Subterfuges – series by Eddie Joseph - The Hindu Cups; Max Andrews’ Magic Magazine: Vol 3 N° 11 © Feb 1955 p 294 & Magic and mysteries of India © 1962 Abbott's Magic Manufacturing Co
Rink (Aka J. Van Rinkhuyzen): The Indian Cups and Balls in Genii Vol. 29, N° 9 May 1965 & Rink's Magic from Holland p 29 © 1968 Hugh Miller Unique Magic Studios
Charlie Miller: The Indian Cups and Balls in Genii Vol 33 N° 3 © Nov 1968 and 4 Dec 1968
Les Greenhalgh: Indian Cups and Balls Routine Swami Issue 31 © 1974 Sam Dalal and © 1997 Richard Kaufman
P. K. Ilango: Indian Cups and Balls © 1983 Supreme Know How Series
Jack Karlow: La Magie de salon par l'adresse manuelle : le close-up © 1989 J. Karlow 10, rue Commandant-Mages, 13001 Marseille (France)
Shankar Junior The Complete Cups and Balls © 1998 Michael Ammar and L&L Publishing; p. 120 the Indian cups and balls
Solyl Kundu: Indian Cups and Balls, Nu Style My Kind of Magic © 2007 p 26
Pete Biro: The Indian Cups and Balls © 2008 Pete Biro
Steve Dacri: Indian Cups and Balls; The Magic of Steve Dacri - No Filler! Vol 2 DVD © L&L Publishing
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I forgot that Roy Fromer has three Indian Cups routines in his booklet "The Cups" A Manual of Cups and Balls Magic © 1972 D. Robbins & Company, Inc.
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Where can I pick up an artificial grass mat for Indian cups and balls?
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Here's the version I used to kick off Act 2 of my biographical Hanussen play of a few years ago, Palace of the Occult.
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