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twiztedmusky New user 63 Posts |
Which is better? Pros and Cons of each....Hopping Halves and Scotch and Soda?
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HiraseMagic Special user Hong Kong 573 Posts |
Hopping Halves:
adv --> The gaffed coins you get will make you perform many many tricks other than the provided routine. A must for coin magicians. Dis --> Cheap version of Hopping halves, the sh**l will not fit very well to real coin dollars. Scotch and Soda: adv --> The best coin gimmick IMHO, I've tried it to hundreds of people and they all go mad over it. Easy and need nearly no sleights at all. dis --> cannot show both front and back of the coins before the tricks. Have to use some psycholoigcal misdirection to deal with this. Hope this help, Hirase P.S. I think you should buy them both!
In love with magic!
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Jasonm921 New user NYC 86 Posts |
I am really not a fan of hopping halves.....I have and never really used it.....maybe one day i'll do it. Scotch and Soda However I love....It is an easy trick but it is so potent.
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magic hands Regular user Long Island, NY 176 Posts |
On the other side I love hopping halves,I have a way to reset quick, the S&S I can't reset quickly..
Just my opinion though |
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
Comparison...Scotch and Soda sucks, Hopping Halves is great.
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Magix Elite user 432 Posts |
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On 2003-04-08 19:17, Andrew E. Miller wrote: I have to disagree. I get great reactions with Scotch and Soda. I've used a magnetic version and also Peter Marucci's ungimmicked version. I like Peter's best for the ease of reset, but both get stunned looks, dropped jaw's, NFW's, etc... |
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
Peter's is good. I really don't care about the reactions. I just don't think it is a good effect. If we all ran around picking effects based on what the audience wants that takes some of the fun out of magic.
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John Clarkson Special user Santa Barbara, CA 749 Posts |
You get tremendous bang for the buck with Hopping Halves. If you add up what each component gaff would cost you, you are ahead by buying Hopping Halves. And, with all those gimmicks, you can perform [i]lots[i] of effects. Don't limit yourself to the theme of a coin being removed from the hand only to reappear there. As one example (among many), Bobo has some great stuff done with a sun and moon.
John D. Clarkson, S.O.B. (Sacred Omphaloskeptic Brotherhood)
Cozener "There is nothing more important to a magician than keeping secrets. Probably because so many of them are Gay." —Peggy, from King of the Hill (Sleight of Hank) |
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
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On 2003-04-08 19:40, Andrew E. Miller wrote: I perform neither, but when it comes to performing, ALL I care about is the reactions. If you don't pick effects based on what the audience wants, you're performing for yourself. As a performer I can think of nothing that's more fun than a killer audience reaction. |
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
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On 2003-04-08 20:23, Larry D. wrote: Magic is supposed to be for you! I know I didn't start doing magic so I could go give laymen what they wanted and not have fun myself. Sure you want good reactions, but you should at least like the effect! Only dealing with business and in shows do I put the audience first. Andrew |
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
That's way different than why I got into magic! Sure I won't perform an effect if I don't like it, but even if I do like it, I won't do it if the audience doesn't.
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
dacin_carrot, you are disagreeing over something I did not say. Sure if an audience doesn't like an effect I can toss it. There is plenty more to choose from. What I AM saying is that. I will NOT perform an effect for a lay audience just because they like it. I did not get into magic to please them only.
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
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On 2003-04-08 20:29, Andrew E. Miller wrote: This is where I disagree with you. I think you should always put the audience first when you perform. They don't want to just watch you have fun. They want to have fun themselves! |
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
I realize that!! That is why I put them first when I perform!!! As I just said! I have them in mind when I work on psychology in my magic. So they can enjoy and relax more during the show!
Andrew |
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redstreak Inner circle A.K.A David Kong 1368 Posts |
don't buy scotch and soda, email Peter Marucci for the ungimmicked one, it is just as good and you can show both sides of both coins.
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Magicusa Elite user 478 Posts |
Hopping Halves is the one I like the most.
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Loz Special user London 777 Posts |
I never got over the problem with noise with scotch and soda. Because of the nature of the gimmick they never sound like real coins when they talk, and getting the pieces together without a strange click has always eluded me. People keep saying how good this is, but I have never been happy with it. Any pointers gratefully received.
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HiraseMagic Special user Hong Kong 573 Posts |
dear Loz,
before performing S&S, I always use the "real" coins to do some impromptu coin tricks, which can make the audience have an impression that the coins are not gimmick. I will switch the coins to S&S after that. Because they have seen many tricks using "these coins", they will not ask to check the coins. This is a good "time misdirection". Yup, I agree that the sound of the gimmick is a bit "odd", therefore after they check the coin, I do a coin switch at once. AND, once again, if you have performed some tricks before, they are not likely to ask to check the coins actually (from my own experience). hope this help, Hirase
In love with magic!
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
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On 2003-04-08 20:29, Andrew E. Miller wrote: No, magic isn't supposed to be just for you. If you want to do something just for you, play solitaire. The audience liking the effect and reacting well is what should make you like the effect, and doing something for the audience which gets a great reaction IS doing something for you as well as for the audience...it's not an either or proposition. |
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Andrew E. Miller Inner circle Southern California 1428 Posts |
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On 2003-04-09 08:14, Larry D. wrote: Read all of what I said. You just don't listen. Read all of what I said. I never once said that magic is supposed to ALL be for you. Stop jumping to conclusions! Andrew |
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