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illusionist13 New user 78 Posts |
I am by no means a mentalist.....I can perform some mentalism if called out, but its a whole new genre to me. I was looking at some effects and saw one that made me quite curious, here's the effect:
Performer throws a ball of some sort into the audience and has a member name a number between 1-50. they throw to another person, and to another all while naming numbers. finally the last spectator is asked on stage and the magician pulls out a lotto ticket with all of the chosen numbers and power ball number which the last spectator chose? Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CE7_BD6aGg Anyone perform this? The effect looks astonishing, where would one learn this? Rob |
Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
There is already a whole thread about this...search for it...you will be glad you did!
But, in short, Nate created this effect...you cannot buy it. Only Nate & Christopher Carter know how it is done...and Chris only found out by holding Nate hostage at dinner one night. http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=15 I've saved you the trouble...the above is the previous 5 page topic on this effect...enjoy! Nathan
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aukt Special user 763 Posts |
Any skilled mentalist watching can see how it's done.
nate did a great job. to come close to recereating it, you need confabulation. |
Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
It's not a confab
Nathan
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aukt Special user 763 Posts |
Nathan, I know it's not confabulation, I said "to come close to recreating it, you need confabulation"
To any experienced mentalist the method, and means to disguise it, are transparent. For the jobbing mentalist, most of us, confabulation is the closest accessible method. |
Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
To the first statement:
Thanks for the clarification... To the second: If you honestly think the method is transparent, you really don't know how it is done. Nathan
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
There was a version of this that was put out a few years ago from a French company. It was not a confabulation effect.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
Christophercarter Regular user 132 Posts |
Nathan asked me to chime in here. Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say much about it. I can only say this: I've seen it done live twice, under essentially challenge conditions. The video was shot with some unfortunate staging that leads people to hypothesize a method that is not used. In reality Nate can do this effect almost anywhere, under almost any conditions, including close up.
I can't say any more. |
Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
Thanks for stopping by Chris.
Nathan
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aukt Special user 763 Posts |
You should know that the method was used only a few months ago by Derren, and he's been using it for over a year every night in his live stage show. And I know at least one other mentalist who uses it.
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jekyllandhyde Regular user 200 Posts |
I missed this the first time around. Very magical but the presentation was lacking substance and the treatment of the spectators was brutal. Barking out orders and not thanking them for helping is just disrespectful.
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Christophercarter Regular user 132 Posts |
To auktionman007, I don't know what method you assume. I only know what method I assumed when I saw the video. I jokingly challened Nate figuring that he couldn't duplicate the effect in my home. He did. Since that time I have been privy to it's further development, and all I can say is that it is a practical effect that can be done by a "jobber," as you put it. The method is new to me, and the only other magician I know of who does it is one who bought the rights from Nate. If Derren Brown has been doing it, that's news to me, but I'm not familiar with his stage show.
If you'd like to PM me about this, please do. I'm not at liberty to say much more, but I do want to avoid any open speculation as to method. (BTW, I appreciate that you have also avoided this.) Thanks. |
Stark Mystery New user 64 Posts |
Wow those stooges are good they must've been practising those "random" throws for years. Just messing great effect. Thanks for sharing it.
Luke |
eSamuels Inner circle 3085 Posts |
I watched Derren do his 'phone a friend/currency serial number' routine, two nights in a row....and I can safely say that unless there is a missing component to the Nate Staniforth video, it is not the same method.
Having said that, both effects are stunning. |
Nathan Pain Inner circle iowa 2825 Posts |
I can't wait until Derren's new show is out on video...
Nathan
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aukt Special user 763 Posts |
I can say with absolute certainty that the method is the same. And it's a true joy to be hold. Derren get's about 20 mins from it.
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