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fleischer New user Sweden 91 Posts |
Hi All!
I have heard about Lesley's deck; and I know how it's done, and what it looks like. Could anyone tell me if it is really invisible to the audience? What is the best effect to go with it, in your humble opinion? Best wishes from Sweden, /HÃ¥kan |
leondo Special user Las Vegas 759 Posts |
fleischer,
Liz and I have used a version of it for years in almost every show, and have never been caught once. I must admit that the vast majority of our work is stage and platform; but even on the MANY close up venues, it's been virtually invisible. For what it's worth, Ted (Leondo) |
fleischer New user Sweden 91 Posts |
Hi leondo,
I'm also interested in using it on stage...but have no experience. Some people don't like using cards on stage, saying that they are too small. Tell me, what do you do on stage? |
Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
If you don't have complete control over your spectators; an ability that accomplished mentalists usually possess, using the Lesley system can be very dangerous. At least in more informal, close-up situations. I mean, the markings are really bold and people are not blind. I think good audience management, fascinating presentations, and thougtful card handling are essential to successfully using this system.
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Hunter New user 72 Posts |
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On 2003-04-10 13:01, fleischer wrote: Using the Lesley system with jumbo playing cards has worked well for me on stage, and with larger groups in a parlor setting. Mr. Lesley explains it completely in his system's booklet. |
1magicshop New user 38 Posts |
I been using the deck for some time now, and I have also been using the B. Wild deck. Both are great.
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BIlly James Special user 991 Posts |
By the way, you might want to check out the S.U.M. deck. It is marked, stacked, and makes for some very powerful presentations. I've used it for stand up, and have never been picked up on it. On a stage in clubs it is a bit different; the distance from the audience and lighting generally make using cards a bit doubtful, so I always leave them out when working club venues.
Anyway, the best of luck for whatever you come up with. Billy James |
gibby357 Veteran user The Woodlands, TX 344 Posts |
I think there used to be a time when people would look over a deck of cards with a fine tooth comb. Nowadays, it does not seem to be the case. The markings are very bold, but that is what makes it so invisible. I was looking for the markings, and it took me a good minute before I spotted them. You will find that if you are natural and proceed as normal, it will always go without a hitch.
gibby |
Ian Rowland Special user London 889 Posts |
If you know what you're doing, no suspicion will ever attach to the cards you use, even if they are marked and gaffed to the hilt. If you don't, plenty of suspicion will attach to the cards even if they're ungaffed.
It's not the trick. It's not the prop. It's YOU. Andy Nyman could use a deck marked "Trick deck" in gold foil block lettering on the back, and it wouldn't make any difference - his audience would go away entertained, baffled, amazed and impressed. It's not trick. It's not the prop. It's YOU. Do you think if David Berglas is at a party, and someone asks him if he'll do something, and he stands up and says, "Well... maybe just a little experiment..." that anyone gives a tinker's cuss about the darn cards? They just want to watch THE MAN. And if he just stood there and read the phone book, frankly, they'd watch. I know I would! The Working Performer's Deck is wonderful, but the booklet that comes with it is just as good and contains countless bright notions. If you want the 'best' effect, it will be in there somewhere. Ted Lesley only puts out stuff that works, and works well.
www.ianrowland.com . Working Magic.
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Dr. TORA Inner circle TURKEY 1439 Posts |
I like Ted Lesley's products and ideas. I have used his ideas for nearly a year; and they did not get me down, even a single time. Nevertheless, as Mr. Rowland said before: it is the performer who makes it an art; not the props, nor the tricks.
Magically Yours,
OZLEN TUNCER /Dr.TORA Have you visited my new Website in English, yet? www.magictora.com or www.torasmagic.com |
poire New user UK 58 Posts |
A while ago I did an experiment with these cards, asking (selected) people if they thought that they were marked. Most said that they felt they weren't... (22 / 28 specifically). Of those who did spot it, 4 took well over a minute, and the 2 who saw it quickly probably knew what they were looking for anyway. When questioned , those who did eventually see the marking said that they weren't looking for anything so "obvious" and thus missed it. I think people look for slight anomalies with the patterns ... in conclusion, I'd say it was certain no one would spot them in a routine that didn't specifically invite suspicion (eg., if you simply identify a face down card). It also depends if people are likely to snatch them out of your hands at the end of the trick saying giiive meee thooose because they don't respect you as a performer or as a person.
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