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Jnana New user 59 Posts |
I got hold of a peg system for mnemonic words up to ten, and have come up with words to 20 for a memory act. I would like to get to 100, but am stuck on a word for 44. I need two r's. If anyone can throw a tip on using mnemonics for anything other than memory work, I would be thankful.
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Bill Cushman Inner circle Florida 2876 Posts |
The word "roar" should suffice (picture a lion?). Or maybe "rear." Use your imagination for that one. I have a mind reading routine that depends on the type of mnemonics you are praticing. You may also find what you are looking for in Mark Striving's "Mobile Mentalism". There is a similar use of mnemonics in John Rigg's "The Complete One-Person Tableside Psychic Act". PM me with some more info on your experience and needs, and I will consider sharing more of my ideas with you.
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
RoweR is a common solution. Lots of information on this topic can be found at:
http://www.vlaardingen.net/~tom/Mainmenu.htm http://memory.uva.nl/memimprovement/eng/ http://snow.utoronto.ca/Learn2/mod4/pegs.html http://www.mindpower.co.zw/memory/ http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemonic_peg_system http://www.thememorypage.net/ ... Doug
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rrubin98 Veteran user Cogito, ergo sum scripsit 357 Posts |
I use "rear" for 44 and picture...well, you know!
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Andini Special user Columbus, OH 685 Posts |
In the Harry Lorayne memory book, he uses "rower." I picture a row boat. However, I do like roar and rear!
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Uli Weigel Inner circle Berlin, Germany 1478 Posts |
How about "rare"? Imagine a rare book or something antique.
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rrubin98 Veteran user Cogito, ergo sum scripsit 357 Posts |
Other possibilities for 44 include worrier, warrior, whirrer, error, aurora, eerier, hairier, horror, hurrier, and wearer.
Recall that the system works by sound (phonetic), not by spelling. So two 'r''s that sound like one count as just one 'r.' - Richard |
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
I just memorized the Nikola system. I can easily peg 52 items to a visualised list. I can tell you where any card in the deck is and or what card is at what position. Check out Jean Hugard's "Encylcopedia of Card Tricks" for the system.
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ronin77 New user NYC 46 Posts |
I always try to think of more outlandish words and objects. If you're willing to expand beyond 1 word, how about the cartoon character "Road Runner"?
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Alan Jackson Elite user Cardiff, UK 432 Posts |
What about "orrery"? It's a clockwork model of the planetary system and a very distinct image.
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
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On 2003-04-10 23:30, Jnana wrote: How do you mean? Everything you use mnemonics for is memory work. Do you mean for other things than memory acts? In that case, the usual stuff, remember people's names, remember more in school, remember telephone numbers, etc. Mikael |
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shrink Inner circle 2609 Posts |
You can use mnemonics to remenber abstract info that you reveal during a show, not as a memory stunt- but as a mindreading stunt. I.E. serial numbers on bills, names and questions for Q&A, etc.
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Andini Special user Columbus, OH 685 Posts |
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On 2003-04-12 19:41, ronin77 wrote: If we're all using the same system that I think we are, then "Road Runner" would become 41424. |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
Not if you only use two digits (00-99) and single digits (0-9) to remember numbers, instead of trying to make longer words out of the numbers. Then you can use whatever word you like for a number. 44 can be dog, cat, tree or whatever you like; as long as you remember that it's number 44.
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shrink Inner circle 2609 Posts |
Mikael: The system other posters are talking about is the phonetic Alphabet. It has 10 sounds which are associated to numbers. This means you can easily translate any number from abstract to a tangible piece of information, which you can use to memorize the images created from it.
It's a brilliant system, and the images are easy to remember. To get the number, you just translate it back. Harry Lorraine covers it in detail in his brilliant book "How to Develop a Super Power Memory". For example: R = 4 T or D are the same sound phonetically, and = 1 N = 2. Therefore, RoaD RuNNeR does = 41424. For example, say someone's telephone number was 668 41424. The image could be "shave roadrunner"...such a ridiculous image of the person shaving a road runner would be remembered forever. Even meeting them years after, you will be able to tell them their phone number. |
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Jnana New user 59 Posts |
Thank you for all the help. I've been going over the websites. I like the idea of remembering information to use at a later time. I have read that someone could remember pages in books by what may have been a mneminic system. I hope to put together a book test somehow. Once again, thank you to everyone who wrote back. Tony.
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
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On 2003-04-13 19:26, shrink wrote: I know. My suggestion was just that if he can't find an RR word he likes, he can use Road Runner, since the peg words never change, and he knows it's 44. Quote:
For example, say someone's telephone number was 668 41424. The image could be This system is very good if you can come up with a word or words you can use. Since I used to use this system I know that unfortunately it's not always possible. In fact in your example, 668 is a number I can't come up with anything for. Sometimes it was impossible to come up with something. If I had used the regular peg system I would already have been able to use the peg words. That's one of the reasons I stopped using the "come up with a word using your fantasy" approach, and started using the "divide the number into pairs and use peg words" instead. Another reason I stopped using it is that if I had a number and wanted to translate it back to a word (like I did when I learned the area codes) I didn't know if I had used sh or j for 6, g or k for 7, d or t for 1, v or f for 8 or b or p for 9. In that case it could be several different things, and it was very difficult to remember the word. With a peg system the numbers could only mean one thing, and nothing else, unlike the first system. However the system I use now is not free of difficulties either. To connect three different pictures and remember it (six digit number) is harder than to remember one single word. If anyone could come up with a system where you always could come up with a word, and where the digits only could mean one letter, that system would be the best. Mikael |
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shrink Inner circle 2609 Posts |
Mikael 668 SHAVE! sh = 6 V = 8...
I've never had any problems with this system. I found at the beginning it was difficult to learn, but it was just like learning the normal alphabet. And once you got it, it's something you'll use all the time. Or at least can use, it even if you've not used it in months; or years even. I originally learned it from "Mind Power" by Lorraine. It's like a course that takes you through all the exercises. But perhaps your method works better for you. |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
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On 2003-04-15 13:09, shrink wrote: But I'm swedish you know we don't have that word... It's really hard to also include words in other languages, it should come quickly, and it doesn't do that with english. By the way, the only systems for remembering numbers I have seen are Dominic's and Lorayne's. Are there others out there? Mikael |
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ddyment Inner circle Gibsons, BC, Canada 2499 Posts |
Mikael commented:
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Another reason I stopped using it is that if I had a number and wanted to translate it back to a word... Just a reminder that the phonetic alphabet was designed to learn numbers by representing them as words, not the reverse. Quote:
If anyone could come up with a system where you always could come up with a word, and where the digits only could mean one letter, that system would be the best. Again, this is the same issue. Digits are not supposed to correspond to letters, but to sounds (specifically, the ten basic consonant sounds), in order that you will recall the number when you hear the word. I'm unaware of any system designed to help people remember words by translating them to numbers, as for most this would be a more difficult chore anyway. As an aside, those who are conversant in multiple languages have a great advantage in the use of this system, as they have a much larger palette of words from which to select! ... Doug
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