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Erich Troudt
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On 2008-10-01 13:26, Mark005 wrote:
I agree, what goes around comes around.

When you build up an audiences expectations by doing miracles on TV that can not be done live...



Well said.

I know some people that have seen the show already....which said it's decent as a cirque show, very thin on the magic.

You can't spend the last few years on TV vanishing in plain sight of park benches, walking on water, floating with people 360 degrees around you and then expect the audience to be stoked over sawing in half, subtrunk, and interlude.
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I totally agree with Steve!
Where are the reviews from us on the show!
Not some speculations on why it wont work, but on why it didn't work the night you saw it!

anybody?

Just,
Larry

Ps. Steve Pm when you hear from your friend I would love to hear what they say!
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Hey Larry, did you read the reviews of folks who HAD seen the show in the Las Vegas Review???

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Ha yep and I commented on another thread (the Copperfield old man line is priceless, for pr reasons too!)

But what I take Steve as meaning, and myself for sure as meaning, is Magician to Magician how was the show?

Because one thing I heard is, when they created the show most of the magic will not just be set "tricks" (Ie; stop look at this...and...TADA!"), as much as plot points/ moments.
And some audiences wont see them as tricks like we do?

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Like I had heard that he will do a flying over the audience (ala Mary Poppins on Broadway!) but there will be no Hoops passed around him, he will not fly up and land then walk around, or go into some box, etc.
so to most people they might just take that as theatrical trick not a magic trick.

does this make sense?

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On 2008-10-01 09:15, Chad Sanborn wrote:
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On 2008-09-29 19:01, Bill Nuvo wrote:
In all fairness, this wasn't a proper review on the show, but fan reaction.


But isn't that EXACTLY what a review is? Your reaction to a show written on paper?


No. A review is done by somebody with knowledge and not ignorance (actual dictionary meaning). I wouldn't listen to a "review" from some Jock-type meathead about Mamma Mia the musical. I'd listen to people from a theatrical background.
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Well if all else fails I vote they replace Chris with these two
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkBPOfqzpb0

I love that music
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I can't believe I'm saying this but after watching that youtube clip....I'm rooting for Criss!!!


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Bill, the only problem is these reviewers do not pay the show's bills. You can have a great product, but what if no one comes??? OR, cares to come!

I think my concern for a Criss Angel show with the Cirque, is the demographic that is attracted to him. Will they go, will they pay to go? And it is a permanent, stationary show.

I think I would have like to have seen Criss cash in on his International t.v. exposure with a "concert" arena tour. Not ready for 2 hours 30 min.? Open with a band, and let him do the last half "star turn". I certainly think the market would have been ready for him, and accepted a show like this. Promoter? Go back to his roots. I believe the WWF (WWE) had a hand in his New York show, they could have done one h*** of a job with a tour for him. Think about it! Just the mechandising alone!!! MEGA!

It would not even have needed to be "over" produced, as with a Cirque show. (costumes, decor etc.)

Let Criss do what he does best!

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Um... what Criss does best is the magical version of lip syncing. the man is the Milli Vanilli of magic. I'm not surprised to hear the reviews. Criss' fan base is used to seeing his over the top methods from his tv show and a live show just isn't going to be the same.

I know everyone says he had a great stage show long ago, but from what I can tell, he prety much modified a lot of the stuff from that show to do his 1st tv special and season 1 of his show. (at least I know his big buzz saw, subtrunk with fire, and his interlude was from his live show) and to be honest I didn't like them too much on the show.

I don't like Criss Angel's methods. I think he abuses magic by always taking the easy way out, and you cant do that live and have a good show.
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I agree Blair totally. My point was just that some people were jumping on the show sucks bandwagon without actually finding out what the show was actually like (either by seeing it or by proper review).
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I still believe Criss could hold his own in a rock environment arena show with an edge. David C's fan base is now getting a little long in the tooth and Criss could fill the gap. (Between Disney arena shows, and David C.) Hopefullly Criss doesn't burn up all his credit with this foray with the Cirque.

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