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Wanlu
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I have no idea who this guy is...he claims to be a magician and ventriloquist from Kentucky.

I got his figure and when it arrived, the shoulders had cracks and the side of the mouth has a crack too...he said it was probaly damahed in transit and he so upset at me because it seemed like I was accusing him.

Thinking its not the guy;s fault, I even gave him a positive feedback.

Then... after awhile...I suddenly had the urge of checking out his original listing andd guess what I discovered in his own listing ...his own photos taken during the auction...the figure already has a crack in the mouth even during the auction which he never mentioned or discribed in his listing.

He can have my money...I don't care. But crooks like this proudly telling everyone he is a magician and a ventriloquist must not be allowed to steal money again. Listing adamged figure but DECLARING the damage in the auction is the right way to do it...so the buyer can bid properly.

Check out the original Ebay listing...NOTICE THE CRACK ON THE SIDE OF THE MOUTH EVEN DURING THE LISTING

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0265489735

If you have an Ebay account...drop this guy a message and let him know what he did was wrong...

Thanks God it happened to ME and to a young child hoping to get his very first vent figure only to get a BROKEN figure...

Thanks

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Wanlu
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Let me put it this way...

First of all, the money is NOT the issue.

2nd...maybe its my fault that I did not study the pictures first before I made my bids...but Im also an Ebay seller and I will not misrepresent a product...so I was under the imression of trust...BIG MISTAKE.

3rd ...when I told the seller about the crack on the mouth he said he shipped it without any cracks...but when I checked his original listing, the crack was there from the time it was listed.

Check out his pictures from his listing...Mike Brose said that the crack is apparent...I agree specially if you know what you are looking for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie......65489735

4th and most important...I'm not after the money...he can keep it. Im posting this here and in other sites to prevent this magician- vent to do this again...prevent him from selling to a young vent looking for a vent partner only to receive a broken figure after spending his folks' hard earned money.

As Tom said, this is clearly a misrepresenation of the item...good thing his own photos will prove this.

I can still sleep tight...knowing Im the victim and not the crook Smile

Thanks be to God for his unspeakable gifts...
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As you say the money is secondary but you should alert both paypal and ebay about a fraudulent action so that this person gets the repremand he deserves. He never should have stated that the figure was like new when in his pictures it clearly shows the crack in the side of the mouth. Don't let him off the hook!!
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I agree with you, Dan. The seller clearly stated in the ad that the figure is in new condition.
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Wanlu
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Yes Dan and Ony...both PayPal and Ebay has been notified...

Thanks for your concern...its not like we are talking of thousands of dollars but its not the money right Dan and Ony?...but the fear of having this man think that he got away with something like this...and most probably do it again.

I actually gave him positive feedback when he insisted that he shipped the figure without any damages...I really thought it was damaged in transit...good thing his own pictures prove him wrong. Smile
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On behalf of all my friends who practice vent and puppetry, I would like to thank you for doing the right thing Wanlu. I am a member of the Paypal & eBay community, as are hundreds of thousands, and we all have to take a stand when someone starts trying to skirt around the rules by selling items under false pretenses. I hate it when someone advertises something as new, and I receive it only to find it is obviously used, or as in the case of your figure, damaged from the start.

Thank you....

Mark
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Wanlu
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Thanks Mark Smile

I appreciate your support...can you imagine if the figure was sold to a kid hoping to find his very first vent partner...imagine the disappointment.

Im glad it happened to me and to a new vent bug bitten kid...
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Wanlu
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I already told the seller he can keep the money...

but I still filed the dispute over Ebay and PayPal...but informed them I am not after a refund but just to set the records straight that an item was misrepresented...

Wanlu Smile
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You are a forgiving soul, Wanlu...

:)

Mark
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Wanlu
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Can you believe this guy...PayPal finally decided on my favor and has suspended this sellers account...

He places a misrepresented item in Ebay and he accuses bidders of GREED for bidding Smile I asked for apologies several times and stressed out that he can have the money but PayPal and Ebay will still have to be informed...

He says he does not ship abroad...so I asked him to ship it to Tom Crowl...but the thing is the figure has been damaged EVEN DURING THE LISTING and not in transit...so the argument of shipping aborad or just in the states is not valid. Tom Crowl even told me that the item was not even bubblewrapped when he got it.

Here is what he had to say...


From: doctormagic

I pray every day that God curses your family!!! You have filed a complaint with pay-pal that has put a hold on my account! You are a liar! You said you were wrong to call me a lier and cheat but you still tell pay-pal that I cheated you! You are a liar! You are a false christian and God will punish you!

I pray that God curses you and your family !!! I have been honest with you! I didn't have to send you the item at all. I clearly stated that I only ship to the US. It was clearly stated in the listing! It's not my fault you refused to read it! You did not have to bid! No one forced you to bid but your own greed! You thought that you could make money off the fugure. I could have canceled your bid and gave you negative feedback! I had others who would have bought the figure! I tried to help you! I even sent you free books and you repay me by telling pay-pal that I am a crook!!!!

*** you and your family!!! May God bring great loss upon you! You are the worst kind of Christian! You preach one thing but do another. You know I did nothing wrong. I pray that God pays you back 1000 times over for your lies!!!

I will win the dispute but it causes me great distress and trouble which I pray God will bring down upon you 1000 times over!

The curse on you and your family is working now and you know it. Things have already started going wrong and will only get worse!!! Tell your family you have brought this curse upon them!!!!

You tell me you are sorry while you push a knife between my ribs! You will pay! God will punish you AND your family!!!! Your greed drove you to bid on the item! God caused the damage duering shipment because you tried to be greedy! Now you want to blame me for the problem your own greed caused! You fail to take responsibility for you greed! You want to blame others! God will punish you for that!

God will bless me even more for the abuse I suffer from you! You will suffer the curse of God for the abuse you have caused me! We will see who comes out better in the end!


My only response to him was...


"Your own curse is upon you...may God have mercy on you."


The case is an obvious misrepresenattion supported by pictures from HIS own listing that's why Paypal has decided on my favor...I was never after the money...but he did something wrong and must be reprimanded...I feel bad but its a moral obligation to fellow ebayers...

Thanks for reading...


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olivertwist
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When I hear someone praying to God to curse their enemies, I think of Matthew 5:44 which states, "But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you."

It's a hard lesson. It's not the way the world responds to threats or enemies, but there it is. Let those with ears to hear, hear it.
Wanlu
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I never meant harm to this guy...never did I tell him anything about his family nor his life...it was him who wished my family evil things...I strictly stuck in the issue of the figure being misrepresented in Ebay. It was him who cursed me...and when PayPal decided on my favor, all I can think of to say to him was "his own curse was upon him...and that may God have mercy on him."

Im the victim yet I tried I apologize to him several times...I extended my apologies to him because I feel obligated to report the matter to Ebay.

PayPal never asked him to refund...because I told them I am not after a refund but just to set the records straight...
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Wanlu,
The internet is full of really troubled people. Just let it go. You will never get an apology from this tortured individual.

It's hard to let go this type of insult but we all know you will not be "punished"
by god. You did nothing wrong.
James
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As I said earlier, Wanlu, this same type of thing has happened to me on eBay as well. I didn't just get one threatening letter condemning me to Hades, but about half a dozen ! It took a threat of police investigation for harrassment to make the nut job stop with his barrage of anger.

We who know you all know you are a wonderful guy, and will have a long and happy life with your super family. BTW, I wil be emailing you soon about the next project I have for you Smile

Mark
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Wanlu
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Thanks James and Mark Smile

Now let me just wait for a message from Thomas, Peter, Paul, John, Mathew, Luke, Timothy and the rest... and I'll feel blessed Smile

Anyway...Im not worried about his curse...Im honestly worried that his own curse is upon him.

Mark...let me know how I can help you... I hope you know that by helping you, you also help me Smile Thanks Smile
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Wanlu
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I think its about time to CLOSE this issue...my apologies to all of you for wasting your time reading this crazy topic. I just hope we all learn something from this.

Thanks

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Wanlu, I didn't mean to imply you were at fault. I was referring to what the seller had written to you.
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Hi Oliver...I know that Smile Thanks Smile
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