Hello guys and gals,

I am preparing myself somewhat for Heloween so I am trying to figure out some different presentations of known tricks.

The one I am thinking about now is a Voodoo version for the do as I do card effect. Somewhat inspired by Baba's postings here and in the anticipation of his book

what I thought of is to tell the person you are going to do the effect with that you will put her under the Vodoo spell. You explain that they need to drink the powder that puts them under your influence and give them some concotion of your own creation (i was thinking of rum with stuff in it to make it not too tasty but also not to bad - some spices like cinnamon or cloves, or cola wit stuff for the "soft" version). You have of course candles burning and made the right atmosphere before by elling about Vodoo and having some nice props around on the table. After they drink you still talk a bit about Spirits and Magick and then take out a small Vodoo doll. You ask for something personal from your Asisstant (a ring or maybe even a hair or something like that) put it on the Vodoo doll. Then you tell them you hae them under your will and can make them do things you want to do and will exemplify this on a pack of cards (nice to have some old worn out decks maybe). Then you proceed with the effect but you make your moves first and say you have chosen a card. Then you put the vodoo doll on the deck and tell them to repeat your movements (well you make a bit of a show of this so it doesn't look like a normal card trick moves). Then you finish the effect.


I guess it could be coupled with a prediction and a fo*** or maybe some sw*** but even without that with proper presentation it could make a good effect I believe.

what do you think?

greets

It may be different in Germany, but giving a spectator a powder or a "potion" to drink might be to invite a lawsuit. I would be very careful with this.

Bill

Instead of drinking it, you could "annoint" them by dipping your finger in it and brushing them your finger on their forehead and/or cheek/chin.

Also, A CARD TRICK FOR VOODOO? Maybe use Tarot Cards instead. Cards scream card trick.

Jamie Salinas
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Hey there!

Bill, I don't think one would get a lawsuit in Germany but I get your point. Clifford helped out on that one already (btw. just out of curiosity what could the lawsuit charges be like?

Clifford, thank you very much! hah you solved the dilemma with the lawsuit and still there is some ritualistic aspect left to it. Great! Thank you!

Jamie, thank you very much for the suggestion I know what you mean. I was thinking of tarot myself but thought that don't know...With cards it is easier to find a justification to use them somewhat...they belonged to the old Francois from louisianna who was a witchdoctor but also a gambler and whom I met there a couple of years ago. I sorta became friends with him somehow and he taught me the things I do and gave the cards too for divination and so on (the cards look of course old and used some maybe with blood or other staines on them). Taro cards on the other hand I don't know...I think they don't really fit in there somehow. what do you think? or maybe do the trick with other objects? but which?


But what do you think of the presentation itself? is it too much? or maybe too clichee? would love to have some oppinions on that details are always easy to deal with...but I think the thing as whole should be solid first

thank you very much and greets

constantin

Constantin, someone could claim that the potion or powder made them sick, or that you tried to poison them, or anything of that sort. Unfortunately, here in the US people are ready to sue at the drop of a hat. A well-known example is the woman who spilled a cup of hot coffee in her lap. I have read that a burglar can break into your house, injure himself, sue you, AND WIN! Anyway, Clifford's advice is good and solves the problem.

I think the presentation is basically good and not at all too much. Certainly, I think it can be worked into something worthwhile. The details will make or break it even if the foundation is sound.

Bill

Bill excuse my pun but it is a bizzare world we live in. I did heard of the hot cofee and the burglar indeed. Sometimes I believe none of the tricks we do is weirder than the real world

You are absolutly right the details can make or break it but I first wanted an assurance that the foundation was solid enough Thanks a lot for your input!

greets