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HarryTheMagician New user 11 Posts |
Hi guys! I have been into card magic for about a year, and found that I like learning from books, because they contain a huge amount of content, as well as lots of advice. I have developed a strong classic palm from the stuff on http://www.coinvanish.com (excellent website, by the way!) and was wondering if I ought to get Bobo's book. You see, from what I have heard, although it is the bible on coin magic, the stuff is not very modern. Is there something more modern for young magicians like me? Thanks guys!
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Andrew11 New user 8 Posts |
Hey man, what's up?
First off, how old are you? I ask because I remember when I was a bit younger (I'm 19 right now) I thought all the stuff in Bobo was lame too. A lot of the stuff in it doesn't sound deceptive at all when you look at it or read it, but when you actually do them on laypeople they amaze. Bobo's a really good book because it covers a lot of the fundamentals and because it has so many good tricks. Trust me there are plenty of impromptu tricks in that book that you can amaze people with. I'm sure there are other good coin books out there but Bobo's is probably the one you'll be recommended the most. Being able to successfully do the newer, flashier looking coin magic well is going to depend on your mastery of the fundamentals anyhow. |
mrunge Inner circle Charleston, SC 3716 Posts |
Welcome to the Café!
Yep, Bobo's is a definite for your magic library. Everything you'll need to know is in that book. Don't worry about how old it is. All the major coin workers today learned what they know from that book. You might also get David Roth Expert Coin Magic ( http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.......m=007840 ) as David is recognized as one of the BEST coin guys ever. There is another book called Coinmagic by Richard Kaufman ( http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.......m=002707 ) which is a fantastic resource as well. Good luck. Mark. |
Wes65 Inner circle I've said very little in 1219 Posts |
The "Sticky" at the top of this forum contains a wealth of information.
Wes
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Welcome to the Café Harry
I'd say that you said more than you think in your post here... "...You see, from what I have heard, although it is the bible on coin magic, the stuff is not very modern..." I would say the bible isn't very modern either but still very much the foundations of what our societies are about. Clearly everyday men show that they think the stuff in there is "lame" and do their own thing, update the meanings to fit what it is they want to do now. But the bible is just as relevant today as when it was first given to us, that's why it's still here. Not to say that Bobo's is as important a work as the bible but it does sorta work like that in coin magic. This is not a sunday school lesson, but I hope you understand what I mean here. Anyway, there are several other good sources to learn coin magic, some mentioned here...a lot of roads leading to the same place. Before most of them, there was "light"...called Bobo's.
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"Believe in YOU, and you will see the greatest magic that ever was." -Mb |
Andrew11 New user 8 Posts |
Just to expand on what I've said earlier -
A lot of moves really do look lame when you know the secret. Just look at youtube. You'll see a bunch of people teaching simple vanishes like finger palm vanishes, classic palm vanishes, and thumb palm vanishes. When you read the comments you'll see a bunch of jackasses posting about how they're so easy/obvious/they wouldn't fool anybody. Yet I've been doing a simple trick in which the only sleight is a classic palm vanish for a while. I've done it on probably like 50 people and nobody has ever "figured it out." Many moves are deceptively deceptive.... haha. |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
I agree with MB.
You say about Bobo's MCM, "the stuff is not very modern. Is there something more modern for young magicians like me?" What would make coin magic "modern" in your opinion? The methods and techniques are never seen and most of the general public have never seen good coin magic. Emphasis on 'good'. The sleights used in MCM are still very much in use today. Routines using the sleights have changed, evolved and been created using them. Some for the better and some not. The "New Modern Coin Magic" offers a couple of new chapters with sleights and routines that the original version didn't have. I highly doubt that you will find anything about coin magic that has so much to offer as MCM does. |
Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Lots of good recommendations here. I would offer purchasing Curtis Kam's "The Pocketbook" from Lulu.com
This little reference book will teach you no moves, no sleights, and no routines, but it is probably the best reference book for a beginner or advanced coin practitioner out there. Curtis is one of the top coin men out there. His work is exceptional. The Pocketbook is a text by one of the very top coin men on how to study and practice coin magic. It is full of information that will take you many texts to gleen out. The glossary alone is worth the price of the book. Curtis also recommends books to study and an order to study them in. It is one book you will use over and over again in your study and practice of coin magic. I highly recommend you start with it.
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
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HarryTheMagician New user 11 Posts |
Hi Guys!
I'll grab a copy of Bobo's as soon as I can. From what I've heard, it's not easy to work from, but I reckon I'll manage. Andrew 11, I am fourteen and thanks for your advice: having been taught the absolute basics (just one simple routine) form a friend, I found that all the stuff on youtube was a bit flat. Thinking back now, though, I am pretty sure that seeing a coin change into a pen, and then vansish when tapped, really was amazing when I saw it close up. I have about £30 that I'd like to spend at the moment - should I get the NEW Bobo's, or the old reprint along with Ammar's DVD? Thanks for all your help and advice; See ya! Harry. |
coinguy Regular user 104 Posts |
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On 2008-11-01 13:04, HarryTheMagician wrote: It is a bit rough at first, but leaves more to your imagination and in the end, you learn the material better. I am 14 as well. You shouldn't have any problems. |
Jeff Dial Special user Kent, WA 533 Posts |
A sage magician once told me regarding finding tricks to use in kids shows: "All magic was invented before they were born." In other words, if no one has seen it before it is new to them.
"Think our brains must be too highly trained, Majikthise" HHGG
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Izz New user Dayton, Ohio 77 Posts |
A sage magician once told me regarding finding tricks to use in kids shows: "All magic was invented before they were born." In other words, if no one has seen it before it is new to them.
I missunderstood this when I first read it and was posting but now I understand and agree ... good point |
Jimeh Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1399 Posts |
Get the new version (New Modern Coin Magic)
http://www.ronjo.com/magic/MA13008.html and not the old Dover version (Modern Coin Magic) http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Coin-Magic-J-Bobo/dp/0486242587 There's more stuff in the newer version. Cheers! Oh, and welcome to the Café Harry! James |
magicman456 New user 2 Posts |
Hey I suggest going to youtube to find out about coin magic
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Jimeh Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1399 Posts |
I disagree with that suggestion...
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