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Is there such a thing? I'm in the early stages of learning the Cups & Balls, and the Silent Mora wand spin is the first task I've set myself. The wand I'm using is 5oz., and just over 13" long, with brass tips. Hardwood, I think. No idea where it came from, it's been in my drawer for years. It's heavily varnished, which allows very little friction, so I've covered it with medical tape to give a bit of grip. That helps a lot. But.. before I go any further, I'm just checking to ensure that I'm not completely on the wrong track. Weight and length, I'd think, would be the most important thing.....
Now, I expect a few answers along the lines of "use whatever suits you", but I don't exactly have a wardrobe full of various wands to sample.
Anyone have any opinions on the Magnum Magus wand? Or any other suitable wands for that matter?

Thanks!

DCB
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Check out the posts about Rannie's wands.
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I have a 14" hardwood wand. I like it a lot. I think a lot of people recommend a heavier wand for the Vernon wand spin, but I've found once you get the basics down, it doesn't really matter as much. I started with just the drummer's spin from the Ammar DVDs. I practiced that a long time, before even attempting the Vernon wand spin. I also got a book/dvd called "Drumstick spinology" which is for drummers, but there were a couple of spins in there that look good.

Definitely get the spin down before attempting the vanish part. It took me a while to get even half-way decent at it (which is where I'm stuck with it right now)
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For me, it's the Ammar Mercury wand, which is the wand I learned the spin with. I am sure that has a lot to do with my choice. I can use most any of my wands, but the Mercury seems the easiest for me.
After much soul searching about a signature, I decided not to have one.

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I have a Bill Palmer Style wand from Tabman Tables and it has brass inserts in the tips which make spinning very easy.
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My beautiful Raydu wand from Rannie Raymundo is heavy and perfect for the Vernon spin. The wood is kamagong which is rare and dense. I had it made with extra-long ferrules of copper, which are solid and dense. The weight lends itself to gravity in all the right moments...

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Rannie's "Boss Wand" is great as well.
It is a solid one-piece wood wand that is slighly tappered in the middle.
I find it aids the spin.
It is not fancy, but a good solid "street wand". It is attractively made and affordable, so you can get a few if you like them.
All the best,
Jeff
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You have to make sure that the wand is not too long for your arm. I made a special wand for a friend of mine that was about 2 inches longer than I recommended. It was very difficult for him to do the spin with because it kept hitting his body.
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Check out this thread on Favourite wands. Although not exactly relating to your question, but it might help.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=115

I have the Michael Ammar Mercury Wand and the MM wand, but still prefer to use the cheap plactic "Rising wand" even to do the wand spin. Doesn't hurt as much when you hit yourself or drop it on your foot. Smile
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Is the Ammar Mercury wand still available? I had a hunt for it some time ago, with no success....

Regards,

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Go to his web site.
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Wand spin is the hardest thing I have had to learn, and the Micheal Ammar DVD does not make it easier to learn that spin. Learning C&Bs routines is fun for me, but the wand spinning takes the fun out of it.

Rannie Raymundo made a FANTASTIC Rael Wand for me and there is no way in the world I am going to practice Wand spinning with that.

I guess I will bring my oak wooden dowel with me to work and find someone to teach me the drum spin. Hope I don't put someones eye out.

Have fun folks!
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I got over a big hurdle on the Vernon wand spin from Michael Vincent's Tapestry of Deception DVD on the C&B. He doesn't spend a lot of time on the spin, but he gave me just enough pointers to overcome the troubles I was having. But probably the best way to learn this is to find someone who can do it and take you through it. I think it's very hard to learn this from a book or DVD.
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Thanks Dave, you exactly right about finding someone to take me through it. Many months ago I drove 40 miles to a magic store and asked them if they could show me the wand spin, but they did not know how to do it either. I think my best bet is to find a High School kid who is in the marching band and have them show me.

Have fun folks, and the band keeps marching on.
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Michael Ammar will be at the TAOM convention next Labor Day weekend. I'm sure he would be glad to break the wand spin down for you.
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That would be a long wait, but by then I might be a Master Jedi Wand spinner. It would be nice to attend the TAOM convention anyway just to be able to meet Micheal Ammar and many others.
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On 2008-10-28 23:35, jconstans wrote:
Rannie's "Boss Wand" is great as well.
It is a solid one-piece wood wand that is slighly tappered in the middle.
I find it aids the spin.
It is not fancy, but a good solid "street wand". It is attractively made and affordable, so you can get a few if you like them.
All the best,
Jeff

Rannie gave me the choice with the Raydu of getting it tapered or not. I decided not to, and have no regrets...it still works well for the spin, on account of the weight.

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Thanks Geoff! The Raydu almost does the spin for you.

Jake is the only one in the world with a Magnum Magus wand. Perhaps he can say something about it.

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Rannie: Been to your website - can't find any wand info. Is it kept in a secret compartment or what?

Tks

DCB
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Do a search here for Rannie's wands ...he has pics of them and you can PM him for details about the various designs.
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