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On 2008-10-30 16:21, deadcatbounce wrote:
Rannie: Been to your website - can't find any wand info. Is it kept in a secret compartment or what?

Tks

DCB

It's there on his site. Go to his store. And next to the picture you will see on the left hand side of the screen is a menue on the right. It is in red so on some browsers it may not be as visible, run your mouse over it. The menu will show up and click on wands. Takes you to the pictures.
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The one I use is from Frank Starsini and is the "street wand". I really like it.
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Magicorik,

Iv'e been playing around with a very old home made wand - weighs just 2 ounces. As opposed to 5 ounces I've been working with... what weight is your "street" wand?

The 2 ounce one works better for me.. anyone have any opinions on weight?

Tks..

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I find that a heavier wand works best for me. I have 3 wands I favour at the moment, order of preference (least to most) is:

Phoenix wand
Wooden wand with brass tips
Wooden wand with stainless tips

That order is also in weight order, the Phoenix being the lightest.

I find the weighted tips help for all the spins I do.

If I have been working with the Pohenix wand and I pick up the stainless tipped one I am okay but vice versa and for the first spin the Phoenix wand usually goes flying!
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Mindyourmagic...

Any idea what the actual weights are? My home made one, with brass tips is 2 ounces...

Tks..

DCB
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On 2008-10-31 17:25, deadcatbounce wrote:
Magicorik,

Iv'e been playing around with a very old home made wand - weighs just 2 ounces. As opposed to 5 ounces I've been working with... what weight is your "street" wand?

The 2 ounce one works better for me.. anyone have any opinions on weight?

Tks..

DCB


My street wand weighs in at 2oz and it's made of canary wood.
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DCB,

Weights are:

Phoenix a touch under 2oz
Wood / Brass a touch over 2oz (but the weight is all at the end as opossed to the Phoenix which is distributed evenly)
Wood / Stainless 3.5oz (weight at the ends as above)

Now you can explain to my Mrs what I am doing in the kitchen with my wands and the scales!! Smile

The stainless wand actually needs very little pressure for a drumstick type spin and it's weight carries it around very well. I have tried to find out what weight it is on the net for you but I can't find one the same. I suspect that from looking at pictures it might be a MM one but I can't say for sure.

It was bought at Blackpool magic convention. It must have been a long while ago, I have not been there for at least 5 years.


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MYM,

Thanks for that..It's kind of in line with the one I'm using now. I had a look at the street wands on Frank Starsini's site.. looks to me like a very nice hardwood dowel. But $50 a pop? I'd better be quiet... been shouted down before for having a go at prices... Smile
I'm going out tomorrow to get some dowelling, brass tubing, aluminium rod and I'm going to experiment...
Had enough of this fannying around..

Thanks, everyone! I'll let you know how I get on..

DCB
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I'm not coming down on you about questioning the price of Frank's sticks, but I think an explanation may be in order.

Canary wood is very expensive. And, of course, it is hand turned. So it costs more.

OTOH, if you get a hickory drumstick, such as a timbale stick, that will cost you about $4.00 for a package of two sticks. The difference -- hickory costs about 1/20 the price of canary wood, and the timbale sticks are turned by machines.

You will also have to cut the timbale sticks to length. You might not like the logos on the sticks, either.

You can go to a lumber yard and buy a dowel for about a buck. But chances are, you won't find a straight one. So you will have to steam it to make it straight.

So, the answer -- quality of the wood and the cost of labor.

You can go to a music store and buy an object that looks remarkably like a violin for about $100. But you won't see anyone in the symphony playing them, because they are not very good ones. It has to do with the quality of the wood and the craftsmanship.
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Bill,

I understand and agree completely with all you say.

At this point, I don't know exactly what it is I'm looking for, and buying a wand unseen, and un-tried is a bit like buying a suit in similar circumstances. I'm not quibbling about the cost - honestly ! Smile , it's just that I need to find what suits me. I love nice things, like I've said before, and cost isn't a problem - I can easily afford the best. But I want the best that suits me.
In the meantime, I'm doing very well with my home made jobbie, and I'm off today, like I said, in search of materials to make a few new ones....

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DCB,
You might want to try Rannie too, he makes beautiful wands.
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MYM,
I'm sure he does, and I'd love to have Rannie and his wands right here.. I'm sure I'd try them, and probably buy more than is sensible..but - I'm holding off till I find out what it is I'm looking for in the way of weight and length. The material (wood, most likely) is a consideration, but it's mainly an aesthetic one.

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DCB,
I hear you... That is something I wish I had the luxury of, actually trying wands and buying the one that is right. So far I have one that I like but it's not just so....
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Any good dvd/book to learn some wand spins? And no I'm not able to go to someone who could teach me since I live in Finland...
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On 2008-12-08 12:14, Ben Lejmi wrote:
Any good dvd/book to learn some wand spins? And no I'm not able to go to someone who could teach me since I live in Finland...


"The Magic of Michael Ammar"
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The other Ammar book:

The Complete Cups and Balls has the best explanation I've ever seen.

I learned it from the Dai Vernon Book of Magic, by Lewis Ganson. If you don't have that book . . . Get it.
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Another good one that teaches more than just the one spin magicians tend to use can be found here:

http://store.drumbum.com/drumstick-spino......icks.htm
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There are several cool wand spins.
The "vernon"/ Mora Wand spin is taught on the Ammar Cups and Balls DVD and is the best explanaition as far as ease of learning.

The Williamson or Drummers wand spin is taught in Williamson's book and on video.
Very easy to learn as well.

I can do the wand spins with any wand and wonder why everyone is so hung up on the weight and such. Hollow plastic wands tend not to look as nice as a well made wooden wand. I use a black wand with silver tips made by Milson Worth and many magicians have told me that it is easy to do the wand spins with. I also use a weighted wand from Collector's workshop because it looks classy. Dark wood with brass tips.

Use what you can and learn it with anything you can including chop sticks, drum sticks, wooden dowels. It would be terrible to ruin your expensive one of a kind wand whilest learning this skill.
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