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I teach on a Native American reservation. Magic tricks have made a huge impression on the children.

I have used the Professor's Nightmare routine successfully and would like to perform some more rope tricks.

As a beginner in rope magic my skills are still pretty basic. Which rope tricks would be within my abilities as a performer? I am ready to put some time into learning the routines but do not know what tricks would be within my skill range.

Thanks.

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Your question has been answered many time, search the rope questions and go back as far as two months. The suggestions will all be there.
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=9&18
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Thanks for the link. I tried a search under several rope terms but could not come up with the thread you linked me to.

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I think the one rope DVD collection that would help you is Daryl's set of rope DVD's, not original but he is a great teacher.
The Abbot's encyclopedia of rope book (Dover press). Karl Fulves rope book as well.
and of course, my own rope DVD
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I deal with unique approaches to some classics, cut and restored, professors nightmare.
Lastly, try to find some George Sands pamphlets, cryptic BC (before computers), typewritten.
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Try Richard Sanders, he has one DVD FIberoptics that has several routines with ropes that are very visual. I have one routine that came in a booklet "Three ropes and a baby" that is inexpensive, and I believe is included in Fiberoptics, this routine is very good.
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Fiber opitcs has been surpassed by fiber optics extended so if you buy the extended you will get more for your money. I totally agree with Ian's recommondations. You should be able to get a deal on ebay.
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George Sand's Sansational Rope Routine is really good and is mechanically easy to do. I good progression from professor's night mare
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On 2008-11-03 11:42, meyegr wrote:
George Sand's Sansational Rope Routine is really good and is mechanically easy to do. I good progression from professor's night mare

Many of the more expensive products have "borrowed from" Sands. I used to buy Sands pamphlets and resell them in my shop. I just unearthed 2 copies from 1977. Over half of Fiber optics, and some of Tabary are from Sands (without credit).
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George Sands booklets: http://alansands.com/store/georgesands.html

George Sands performing the Sandsational Rope Routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49-1nFl_UA
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I wouldn't tip good stuff like Sands, Sanders, etc. I would get the Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks from Abbotts and teach knots and bits, but avoid the stuff being used in so many performers' acts.
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He has some nice moments in that routine. thanks for the link Alan.
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The George Sands DVD is a great place to start.
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I wouldn't tip good stuff like Sands, Sanders, etc. I would get the Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks from Abbotts and teach knots and bits, but avoid the stuff being used in so many performers' acts.

I only suggest Sands because his routine was so widely copied and unattributed. I see that Alan is finally doing a good job of promoting and packaging.
I saw my first lecture ever at SAM #35 in Poughkeepsie, NY. It was the Sands lecture. It was stunning and became part of my act for over 31 years.
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Great suggestions. Thank you

I will get at least two of the items mentioned (Probably DVDs. I learn better from watching then reading).

And if my magic word, "POWERBALL" works I will buy everything that was mentioned.

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I personally learned a lot from Daryl's 3 volume series as well as the Tabary's video during the early days. They cover a lot of various rope moves and routines as well.
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I would suggest Richard Sanders' DVD as well. I bring it up because the "Extended" version of Fiber Optics is now out and it's wonderful.

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If you are a newbie, stick to Daryl. A wealth of info, or the book abbott's encyclopedia of rope magic. I have started newbie magicians for over 35 yeaqrs. You will not learn enough about rope technique from Fiber Optics or Tabary, they are for experienced rope users, and will burn you out before you get started.
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Karl Fulves rope book by Dover, Abbots book, or the Daryl DVD will absoloutely be all you need.
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And when you need to buy more rope, you can come directly to me....just ask Ian, he'll tell ya!
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I carry plenty of inexpensive rope for you to practice your heart out.

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Hi Dany,

From a rope newbie, what the advantages/disadvantages to core, no core rope?
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"Rockwall"...it depends on what type of rope tricks you are doing, along with preference. Usually...ropes with no core are more loose. I can't really say what the advantages/disadvantages are, because every magician has his/her own preference of the type of rope to use for the type of rope magic they are performing.
I use rope with core for Prof. Nightmare. but I use coreless for Tabary. but that's just my preference. I can use either one, but I choose to use one over the other for some routines.
Sorry, didn't mean to confuse you, but I hope that helped you a little.
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