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Arepsi
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Hello and greetings from Finland!

I just got the classic zig zag. I made my order at May and today the case arrived. At first, I've to say this is top notch, super quality product. Plywood has laminate surface and it's painted well.

I made my order, because I didn't have time to make one by myself and I was feeling little bit disappointed when I heard the delay. Meanwhile I built the Crystal Caket and halfway one-man Modern Art sawing. But I've to admit, I can never reach the quality of his work.

This unit is absolutely amazing, with its chrome parts, bolts and everything. This unit folds in half and it has the sliding panel on middle box as in original. In Paul Osbornes plans there was a part which goes something like this: "if you're going to improve the original - make sure that they really are improvements". Rich Hill built sliding handles for the blade and that way handles are not offset anymore when introducing the blades.

I highly recommend Rich Hill's products. Worth every penny. BTW - Sorry my poor English.

Photos: http://www.aarosorva.com/zigzag/

Aaro Sorva
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Woooow that really looks amazing!! Wish I had the money to buy one!

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Richard Sherry
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It looks good but I don't care for the unpainted piano hinge. It somehow looks unfinished.
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That is a fine looking prop!
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Man, those are some GIANT photos!

The prop is beautiful, but the exposed hinge is sort of like having a designer tuxedo and wearing your underwear on the outside... Smile

Work very hard on your routine. So many performers lose so much of the Zig Zag's effect by ignoring Harbin's original presentation ideas...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
ricker
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This ignores a lot of the Harbin plans too.. I can tell Rich didn't build it from those plans.

No latch on the middle door.

No blinds to cover the sections and the extra table top on the left... not what Harbin designed.

And yes, paint the hinges.

And you don't need sliding blades...
Rich Hill
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Blind housings are on the indside, as is the center box latch.
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ricker
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But why the top cover on the side table top? Blinds should work fine.

Moving the blinds inside is a great idea. I bet Harbin would have liked that.
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Blinds absolutely do work fine. It's just a choice.
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Pete Biro
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OK, I hope you know the REAL SECRET to Zig Zag. If you read the Harbin Book, he emphasizes the fact that a spectator should be involved. Spectator pushes the middle section and it stops. "Do you know why it stopped?" the magician asks? "It's because it hits the lady inside." Now you put the blades in. This covers fact that the blades are NARROW, that's because now the centet section is part way over. After blades inserted the magician now asks the spectator to push again... and the section goes all the way. THIS IS THE STRONG MOMENT OF THE TRICK. THE LOOK ON SPECTATOR IS WHAT YOU SELL.

Harbin used to get very upset when he saw magicians do it without the spectator up helping.

Belive me, it makes it a greater effect.
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ricker
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Agree Pete, did it that way Halloween night at my annual show.
Arepsi
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Yes indeed. In my opinion, the hinge is ok to be unpainted. It creates vertical look to the apparatus and when the box is "zagged" it gives better look from far. The roller blinds are inside of the box and I like to use two trays, it's easier to assemble. Assistant uses these latches to close the door from inside. It could be possible to paint the hinge, but I asked Rich to leave it unpainted. This unit has the tickle box on the center and Rich sent this to me with everything, the assembly instructions and tools on neat bag.

The graphic and details can be modified, but I'm going to perform this as Harbin used to. In Roberto Giobbi lecture, Roberto show'd two video clips of the zig zag, one where was Harbin and second where was Copperfield and I'd prefer the original.

Roberto said that magic is like a Swiss watch, from inside it has complex workings but from outside it looks simple. Copperfield's presentation was little like opposite. Definetly with original presentation with the assitant. And the plans I think are from Osbornes Plans.

Aaro
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And this is the master at work.. watch and learn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMN9h4ppIbI
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I am a very big fan of the Zig Zag illusion. It was the first illusion I ever had, and I continue to perform it to this day. Rich, you did a fantastic job on this piece, and Aaro I know you will love it. I too favor the Harbin presentation. Best of luck and great job. I am

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Rich Hill
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Thanks so much, Beau - it was the first illusion I ever had as well...one of my very favorites!
And ricker, I'm so glad you posted the Harbin presentation...well done.
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Looks really good Rich makes some awesome looking props. Keep up the good work Rich.
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Why does Harbin have a piece of metal to make the girl bend down?

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ricker
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That's the orginial design of the Zig-Zag, it's not metal, it's wood. It helped keep the middle box stable.

The real plans are in the book, The Magic of Robert Harbin.
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Does the The Magic Trick Shop has the right to sell the original plans? It said "more than 10 available"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Building-Plans-Rober......a5d0bc8a

Best,

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