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Izz
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I have read this tip and have a much harder time "fitting" the coin in tightly ... I seem to have to jut my thumb out to really get the coin in there ...

Just wondering if this goes away or is it possibly my hands?or any tips? I would like to do this correctly but would rather jut my thumb out than drop the coin.
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You should not have to swing your thumb out to do a classic palm. When you do that, it is a dead giveaway to the specs that something is going on in that hand. That's why many books recommend getting in the habit of touching the first finger to the thumb, which helps to prevent the thumb from popping out.

So just have patience and keep practicing. The classic palm is not an easy sleight to acquire, but once you have it, you can do wonderful things with it. SETH
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Jonathan Townsend
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Press your thumb against the top of your second finger and let your third finger learn how to do the work reliably.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Izz
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Ok I'll try that thanks
Izz
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Wow this is like starting over Smile oh well better to get it right
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It takes a little adjusting, but its nowhere near starting over
Izz
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True and to get rid of the thumb jut it is worth it ... just being impatient lol I know better.
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Since your just starting out if I could do it all over I would just practicing going into CP from my ring finger. touch your thumb and first finger together. While balancing the coin on your third finger and set it in. I only use my third finger to CP and when I'm in rest position. Very rarely will the coin be balancing on more then my third finger.
I find using just the third finger cuts down on allot of movement with in my hand.
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I'm a ring finger guy as well! The thumb and forefinger is an EXCELLENT tip and DOES help eliminate the tell tale thumb pop!
Izz
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I found that I was using the middle and ring finger ... but now will concentrate on just the ring finger ... might as well do it right ... thanks
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That idea comes from Roth, inhis discussion of classic mistakes with the classic palm. See his complete discussion on vol 5 of the New York Coin Magic DVD series, on Productions, Vanishes, and Penetrations
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On 2008-11-12 01:34, Izz wrote:
I have read this tip and have a much harder time "fitting" the coin in tightly ... I seem to have to jut my thumb out to really get the coin in there ...

Just wondering if this goes away or is it possibly my hands?or any tips? I would like to do this correctly but would rather jut my thumb out than drop the coin.


Hi Izz, I've been doing coin magic for about a month and a half so far. I've ran into the same problem as you with the classic palm. What I found is that initially, our middle fingers and ring fingers are not strong enough to push the coin hard into the palm, so we compensate by letting the thumb jut out--this moves the thumb muscle out of the way so there is less resistance to the coin getting into palm. What worked for me was to work out my middle and ring fingers...I'd keep the thumb and index together, and force myself to get the coin into classic palm. Eventually I could feel my ring and middle finger get stronger. I can keep the ring finger and middle finger together with quarters, but I struggle with half dollars, perhaps due to the bigger coin and my smallish hands.

Best Evikshin
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I had the same problem for a long time. Almost gave up classic palming. Then I got the advise: Try to place the coin a little further down in the palm (away from the fingers). Then you don't need to move the muscle of the thumb so much to catch the coin in place. That helped me anyway.

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Just work out your middle/ring fingers and it'll eventually work out for you.
Izz
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I'm giving this it's due because it is important to me and after a couple weeks it is easier and coming more naturally ... like the idea o0f working out the fingers might try that also ... Thanks again
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