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On 2008-11-28 00:02, gaddy wrote:
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On 2008-11-27 21:30, Big Daddy Cool wrote:
Yes, that would be acceptable - however there is no way that the MM reaches even near 5%. How I do something is not nearly as important as why. For more on the foundation of this thought read Magic & Meaning by Eugene Burger and Robert Neale.


BDC, It's possible the reason you have not been contacted by the IBM for their convention is your position on exposure, which runs counter to the IBM's stated bylaws...


Could be...

But I submitted long before this was ever a topic here.

If it is a reason, then I'm cool with it. I also know that some in the "establishment" agree with me. They've sent me e-mail in support...
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I sent gale that link on You-tube. Poor quality, but it is enough
for him to see it.
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On 2008-11-28 09:37, Big Daddy Cool wrote:
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On 2008-11-28 00:02, gaddy wrote:
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On 2008-11-27 21:30, Big Daddy Cool wrote:
Yes, that would be acceptable - however there is no way that the MM reaches even near 5%. How I do something is not nearly as important as why. For more on the foundation of this thought read Magic & Meaning by Eugene Burger and Robert Neale.


BDC, It's possible the reason you have not been contacted by the IBM for their convention is your position on exposure, which runs counter to the IBM's stated bylaws...


Could be...

But I submitted long before this was ever a topic here.

If it is a reason, then I'm cool with it. I also know that some in the "establishment" agree with me. They've sent me e-mail in support...


Fair enough. I'm glad you're getting the support you desire.

To me exposure is like pornography. It can be very difficult to define, it's almost 100% cheap, tawdry and demeaning to something that was once beautiful artistic and noble. But it's not something that one can, or perhaps even should, want to ban outright for fear of what may be lost in the process...

I find it repulsive in the extreme, and at the same time cannot begrudge someone (except in a mocking or shunning sort of way) who feels the need to use it to further their ends (whatever those may be)...
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One of the questions people don't ask too often is "how specifically does explaining a trick help the audience?"

Well?
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Or help the magician?

Paulo
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No idea what you mean by magician Paulo - though it does give exhibitionists who don't have the guts to show themselves a ploy to get some attention without personal risk. Somewhere between gossip and flashing.

Now if those involved in such projects wanted to expose the mechanics of social distraction and leading and anchoring as regards "why one accepts the unthinkable as commonplace"... well that would show some understanding of applied conjuring methods and some strength of character.

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I don't know if this is the right forum to post this, so I'll take advice if there is a better one. I have seen some of these MM shows and cringe. I won't expand my views in this post because it has another purpose. I am interested in having a complete list of the tricks exposed on the MM. For example, I have seen the following items exposed:

1. IT
2. Cigarette through quarter
3. zombie
4. a big illusion called Assistant's Revenge
5. a floating table
6. a big illusion of a magician walking through a spinning fan
7. a big illusion of making an elephant appear in a parking lot
8. bending a spoon
9. a table effect similar to Bill Abbott's "The Thing"
10. the big illusion cited in a post above showing the patent for the effect
11. an illusion of ramming a sword through the middle of a woman

I would be interested in additional information. Thank you.

Gianni
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Somebody had a list on another post somewhere.

Posted: Nov 29, 2008 7:35am
I ask Gale what could be done about the exposure of his Gamolo. I respect gale's opinion because he is an attorney and this was his response:
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Dear Dennis,

My illusion is patented, licensed to "my purchaser."

Owning performance rights, and actually recovering significantly from an infringement or an unlicensed use of same is, under American intellectual property law, another matter entirely.

As a practical matter, considering the roadblocks & delay the TV producers would erect, it is really not worth the candle. My name wasn't mentioned, and they didn't say explicitly, this "is how David Copperfield or Gale Molovinsky does the levitation, etc., etc."...... they really just presented it as a generic explanation of "how magicians float a lady in the air." In a sick sense, I should be flattered by the use of my illusion for the explanation, but of course, no one viewing the show will realize it is mine.

I assume they employed it because they didn't want to go to the expense of purchasing a more expensive levitation.

Best regards,
Gale
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Like Gale, I experienced similar "copy infringement", and was told, it was not worth the effort, by a panel of copyright lawyers.
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Well, again while I'm not thrilled about it and the show has no traction

The performer (whoever this MM is, an older heavier Val Valentino?) is bloody well awful. Even with wearing gloves his technique, presentation and mechanics are poor.

Beyond that the example of linking rings and it all being about presentation are correct. Performing rings for less than 2 years and always get a great reaction (love the audible audience gasp, always in the same place). It has to do with the story told when introducing the rings and closing the piece. The piece is well set up, I engage the audience and bring them along for a ride and a piece of history.


There is nothing we can do about this clown exposing on TV but there is something YOU CAN DO ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION!!!!


You got it off your chest, now go work to give your audience the experience they deserve
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Let's see...

The Magic is being exposed already, regardless of what we say...

It's not worth the time and money to sue, if I understand correctly...

So?

We just go on going on...

Entertain and enjoy entertaining. Get a child and a "child inside" to smile at your Magic if nothing else. Get well paid when possible. Smile

Life's too short to worry too much about this. Grasp this fleeting moment for all it's worth. Make it mean something.

Look at what just happened in Mumbai with the terrorist attack. Life IS truly fleeting.

I'll EXPOSE some Magic here and now... Smile



The Magic is that we are even here.


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Pretty much sums it up Pakar!
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Thanks Dennis...

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The thing that gets me is the people that are like "that's ILLEGAL!" "IF you see him on the street beat him up/kill him" I think that is much more illegal (Assault and battery) I am pretty sure that FOX has pretty good lawyers and are covering their bases. There are many more intellectual and mature ways of solving something then beating someone up.
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If the exposed magicians are going to unite in one legal action against him or fox, let me know. I have my trick registered too...
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CLASS ACTION .... PUNATIVE DAMAGES !!!!!
Could be worth millions. No kidding.
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But on the subject...I'll side with BDC on this one; quit being clones and it won't matter what you choose to do.
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In my opinion, exposure sucks. Period!

And some say this clown is actually good for the art of magic?

How do you figure that, and what color is the sky on YOUR planet?

When I saw the Masked Magician reveal huge stage illusions, I didn't like it, and then I thought: "Well, Copperfield and Angel are rich, they'll be ok."

Then I saw the Masked Mentalcase reveal tricks you can buy at your local magic shop, and I was angry. I have frends who own small shops, and revealing stuff like the cig through quarter, folding coin, etc, is harmful to them making a living.

And THEN, I saw the Masked Moron reveal the cut & restored rope, walking through a pole, etc. etc. which are street magic tricks that I do myself! That affects me personally!

The thing about the MM, is that he is an equal opportunity terrorist. He screws with ALL of us! From the mega-rich Copperfield types, to the poor slob on the street! It's exposure, it's deliberate, it's harmful and it's wrong!

The MM is a thief, a con man and loser! He takes food out of peoples mouths, he destroys careers, he ruins the wonder of tricks and spoils the show for the audience, and he does it all to make a quick buck!

He steals the intellectual property of those who create magic effects, then exposes them on international tv so he can profit from it. He is nothing more than a common criminal!

Bottom Line: He harms innocent people to make money! Those who praise him can bloody well have him!
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Amazing_gordo, I think the same. Exactly the same. It's just sad that most of the people here LOVE him
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On 2008-12-02 10:17, amazing_gordo wrote:
In my opinion, exposure sucks. Period!

And some say this clown is actually good for the art of magic?

How do you figure that, and what color is the sky on YOUR planet?

When I saw the Masked Magician reveal huge stage illusions, I didn't like it, and then I thought: "Well, Copperfield and Angel are rich, they'll be ok."

Then I saw the Masked Mentalcase reveal tricks you can buy at your local magic shop, and I was angry. I have frends who own small shops, and revealing stuff like the cig through quarter, folding coin, etc, is harmful to them making a living.

And THEN, I saw the Masked Moron reveal the cut & restored rope, walking through a pole, etc. etc. which are street magic tricks that I do myself! That affects me personally!

The thing about the MM, is that he is an equal opportunity terrorist. He screws with ALL of us! From the mega-rich Copperfield types, to the poor slob on the street! It's exposure, it's deliberate, it's harmful and it's wrong!

The MM is a thief, a con man and loser! He takes food out of peoples mouths, he destroys careers, he ruins the wonder of tricks and spoils the show for the audience, and he does it all to make a quick buck!

He steals the intellectual property of those who create magic effects, then exposes them on international tv so he can profit from it. He is nothing more than a common criminal!

Bottom Line: He harms innocent people to make money! Those who praise him can bloody well have him!


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Did he not read or not agree?
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