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D Walker
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What is the proper protocol to attending an IBM Ring for the first time? I am not a working magician, actually I am more of a hobbyist. I have been dabbling in Magic for over 10 year, I used to do little routines for family and friends but now I just mostly practicing by myself. I am looking for a place I can practice my patter and refine my angles with others. So I guess I have two questions. 1) Would an IBM Ring suite this purpose, or would I be in way over my head. 2) What is the best way to join a meeting? I found a ring not far from my home in Highland, CA.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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Hi D,

I think the local IBM Ring would welcome you with open arms. Most clubs are always looking for new members, especially those with an actual interest in magic such as yourself. I think you'd fit right in and have a great time. Most members of magic clubs are just like you...hobbyist.

The best way to join a Ring would be to contact them and visit the club. They can then answer all your questions. It looks like Highland is a city in San Bernardino, which happens to be the home of Ring 254 - the Karrell Fox Memorial Ring. It meets on the 2nd Tuesday of the month at 7:30pm. The clubs contact is Stephen Micklas who can be reached by email at sjmicklas@verizon.net and can help you meet up with them.

Good luck! Mark. Smile
D Walker
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Thank you for the response. I will shoot Stephan an email.
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I sent you a PM with spome more info about the ibm in highland.

Erich
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Hi D,

I showed up at my first meeting as a complete neophyte almost 9 years ago (I still shudder when I think of that first performance I did for the group), and really want to thank all the members from Ring 50 for being so welcoming and helping me discover new areas in magic I might never have considered studying (history, etc.). A great mix of hobbyists and pros is in our club, each with something to share, and a real dedication to improving our craft by helping elevate each other's performance. If you have half the experience I had, you'll be a lifelong IBM member in no time. Good luck!

Regards,

Jason
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Hey Doug,

After you attend your first meeting, please let us know what your experience was like.

Steve Hart
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On 2008-11-27 22:41, Steve Hart wrote:
Hey Doug,

After you attend your first meeting, please let us know what your experience was like.

Steve Hart


I'll do that. Thanks
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Hi Doug,
Yes Please let us know how you make out at your first meeting! It can be a challenging first step but don't hesitate. We welcome you and hope you have a long relationship with magic and the IBM. I like jason am Honored to be a member of ring 50 and have grown exponentialy since joining.
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Doug,

I'm sure that you will be welcomed with open arms.

Keep us posted!

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I'm sure that you will be welcomed with open arms. As ring 35 did for me, don't worry about your skill level, we are are still learning all the time. A true magician never stops learning, no matter of there skill. I hope you have fun and make some life long friends.
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Ring 60 here in Austin was great. I just joined this week and am really looking forward to everything.

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Though I have been an IBM member for more than three years now, I was finally able to attend my first local Ring meeting this past week. I'd been to the yearly charity auction and flea market and some other various lectures and events held by the local Ring; but this was the first actual meeting I'd ever attended. I had every intention of officially joining and paying my dues that night. As it turns out, I think I'll wait.

First of all, I felt like a complete outsider. They had their holiday party and white elephant gift exchange. I had no idea; so I had no gift and had to simply observe during the gift exchange. No big deal. I offered some comments and introduced myself to several people, stating that I was the "new guy" and/or mentioning that it was my first visit. Beyond a couple of people offering their name and a handshake after my having introduced myself, I was basically ignored. I assisted one other magician, along with two other gentlemen, with an illusion. That was only because it required business cards and I was one of only a handful who offered their business card. For the most part, I was ignored. Attempts to start conversations failed. Introducing myself resulted in no welcoming comments or helpful suggestions or offers to introduce me to others.

There seemed to be a few cliques within the group and I clearly didn't fit within any of those cliques. Some of those there had seen me at the other events; so I know they recognized me, (even if they didn't know my name). All attempts at networking and socializing began and ended with me.

Though an IBM member, I'm not a member of my local Ring. Now I don't know that I will join. I wasn't given any incentive to join. Additionally, I live more than 50 miles from the closest Ring and meeting place. It takes me well over an hour to get home from there. My job has historically had me working up to their start time. Because of this, I haven't been able to attend up until now. My schedule should allow me to attend more meetings throughout 2009; but I don't see how attending would be beneficial, considering the distance I have to drive and the lack of friendliness I received while there.

I was hoping for a network of magic enthusiasts. I wanted to socialize; but I also wanted to share my personal theories, thoughts and issues with various illusions in the hopes of providing other magicians with assistance and/or receiving assistance for myself, as well. I've always been terrified to perform in front of other magicians and have been working hard to get over that. I thought that I could benefit from performing for a group of magicians. But I didn't perform the other night, (though I came prepared to do so). I got the feeling that they would be disinterested in my performance, (or in any performance by anyone not an established member of their cliques).

I was more than a little disappointed in the reception, (or lack thereof), that I received. Perhaps someday a Ring will be started closer to my home that I may fit better into.
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Hi Bendy,

Sorry to hear about your experience. Not all Rings are like that! You might want to try it one more time, sometimes different members show up at different meetings. Or, you might ask around and see if there are IBM members who live closer to you who can meet informally, which might lead to a Ring being established closer to your home? We toy with the idea ourselves in D.C. every now and again, since several of us also live over an hour from where Ring 50 meets each month, but ultimately the larger meetings tend to be more interesting and it's a good chance to catch up with friends I've met through IBM in the area I might not get to see otherwise.

Regards,

Jason
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On 2008-11-29 02:34, D Walker wrote:
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On 2008-11-27 22:41, Steve Hart wrote:
Hey Doug,

After you attend your first meeting, please let us know what your experience was like.

Steve Hart


I'll do that. Thanks


Please do. I live over in Rialto and would love to hear about your experience.
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Bendy,

I am sorry your Orlando Ring meeting visit was not what you expected.

Are you on their mailing list.....is that why you didn't know about the magic gift exchange?

Who did you introduce yourself to???
Where any of them officers of the Ring?

I strongly encourage you to try again. The idea of cliques can be an illusion.
I find most so called "cliques" are only a group of people who know each other and stay in communication with each other because their friends.

Until you make friends they don't know you. First time meetings are not enough for most magicians to make friends.

I am sorry we did not meet. I was there with the other 50 or more people many I did not know.

If you are who I think you were...that night you were not alone.
Since you had a companion I thought you were happy and you did not need my attention. I wish someone had introduced you to me, if so I would have done my best to make you feel welcomed.

I drive over 60 miles to attend the Orlando Ring. But it is worth it to me.
They are a lively bunch, well attended, and yes they do know how to talk magic when you find the right ones. Hey, not everyone knows how to talk magic.

Did you meet Bev Bergeron that night? That alone would have been the highlight of that meeting if I were you.

Let's make plans to make your next visit to the Ring a better one. Call me.
My phone number is on my Website.

Steve Hart
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On 2008-12-21 00:58, Bendy wrote:
Though I have been an IBM member for more than three years now, I was finally able to attend my first local Ring meeting this past week.


I always thought you had to belong to a local ring to join the national?
So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
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On 2008-12-21 00:58, Bendy wrote:
Though I have been an IBM member for more than three years now, I was finally able to attend my first local Ring meeting this past week.


I always thought you had to belong to a local ring to join the national?


Nope. All you need is two current IBM members to sponsor you.

Mark.
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Interesting. When I joined, those 2 required I join the local.
So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.
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It was a personal thing to them. It's NOT required by the IBM since you might live in a town that does NOT have, or is even close to, a local Ring that you could join.

Mark.
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On 2008-12-30 23:12, Steve Hart wrote:
Bendy,

I am sorry your Orlando Ring meeting visit was not what you expected.

Are you on their mailing list.....is that why you didn't know about the magic gift exchange?

Who did you introduce yourself to???
Where any of them officers of the Ring?

I am sorry we did not meet. I was there with the other 50 or more people many I did not know.

If you are who I think you were...that night you were not alone.
Since you had a companion I thought you were happy and you did not need my attention. I wish someone had introduced you to me, if so I would have done my best to make you feel welcomed.

Did you meet Bev Bergeron that night? That alone would have been the highlight of that meeting if I were you.

Let's make plans to make your next visit to the Ring a better one. Call me.
My phone number is on my Website.

Steve Hart
http://www.magic2motivate.com


Steve,

I am not on the Ring 170 mailing list. The only reason I know where the meeting is held is because the very first thing I read when I receive The Linking Ring each month is the meeting notes for my local ring, (and a few others that interest me).

I don't recall the names of those I introduced myself to, (though I'm pretty sure one was named Chris and an older gentleman whose name I believe was Charlie). Forgive me...I'm terrible with names. I go to church with people I see and speak to on a regular basis and when my wife mentions, "we got a Christmas card from so-and-so" or something of that nature, I'm like, "who's that." Then she has to remind me. I remember faces and, (having been in radio), voices. Names fail me more often than I'd prefer.

I do know that I did not introduce myself to, or was not introduced to, any officers of the Ring. I did not meet Bev, but during the gift exchange, he was sitting very close to where I was, (he was in the front row on the left if you were facing the stage - I was behind him a few rows and over a couple of people; though, as you know, the chairs weren't really arranged in any sequential order).

I was, in fact, alone at the meeting with no companion.

I will plan to give you a call before I attend my next meeting. Unfortunately, I do not expect to make the January or February meetings. The January meeting follows some extensive dental surgery that I have scheduled and I'll be in no condition to attend. The February meeting will be missed due to my work schedule. Perhaps I can shoot for March. I'll be in touch. Thanks!
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