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RS Magic(NL)
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for a way to vanish the last coin (half dollar) in the most "honest and slowest way possible" and having it look as if the handling is the same as with earlier vanishes.

This is my effect:

The setting is salon/stage with music

I remove 4 coins from a glass and show them very slowly to audience.

Two coins are held in the left hand between thumb and first two fingers and the other 2 coins are held in the same way in the right hand. The coins are held at eye level

The right hand makes a very slow move to hip, stomach and back to eye level. One coin is "crowned" very slowly and invisibly in the air and is now seen vanished!

Looking into the glass, coin one is seen!
The effect is same with coin 2 but now with left hand (the right hand maintains its last position from the first vanish - eye level)

The same moves are used for vanishing the remaining coin (third coin) in the right hand.

Now, I would like to do the same handling (very slow!) to vanish the last coin!

The only thing I can figure out is to “sleeve” the final coin or perhaps use a gaffed coin with a real coin in my sleeve.

Are there other (better) way's to slowly vanish a coin?

I hope for lots of idea's

Detail; I do not perform for magicians (those who like to show 100 different moves to vanish a coin!).

I want to perform this effect for "normal" people. I want each coin vanish to seem to be the same everytime.

My philosophy is that the audience knows exactly what is going to happen and still does not know how it works!!!

*****Sorry for my terrible English, I am from The Netherlands and English is not that good****

Best regards,
Smile

Best regards,

Richard
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Mark Martinez
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I was thinking of the sleeve or pull also! Other ideas... A tie servant or hooked coin?

Good Luck with the routine!
Magically,
Mark

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James Harrison
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I've only heard about it, (not sure if this is what you are loooking for) but on Reed's Coin ovations dvd, he does a slo mo 3 fly, you might be able to apply that to your effect.

(I'll have to see for myself, looking forward to getting the dvd in the mail)
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You could also try cuffing the coin instead of sleeving so you could do the entire routine with sleeves rolled up, if you do not need to utilize your sleeves at any other time prior to the last vanish. Hope this helps.
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I'm going from memory here, but I think there's a slo-mo coin vanish in the Complete Works of Derek Dingle. Don't know how well it would fold into your routine, but it might be worth checking out.
Larry Barnowsky
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Consider a retention pass.
If you don't mind using a gimmick, you can do an incredible vanish with the Now U See It Now U Don't gimmick from Meir Yedid and Jeff Stewart.
Andrew E. Miller
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You could try the "Slow Motion Coin Vanish." I will have to get back to you on where to find it though. Does anyone else know?

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Schaden
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I think it was in a book at Hocus-Pocus.com.


The whole book is about slow mo stuff.

Lee
Jonathan Townsend
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Hello RS,

There are several 'slow motion' approaches. Some from the 50's started appearing in print in the 60's, like John Ramsay's in The Ramsay Legend. Others involving pinches and recently even edge grip transfers have been published since then. Geoff Latta and the NY gang have been using what are called 'curl palm' and 'Nowhere Palm' to make this happen at the fingertips for the last twenty odd years. I believe many of the 'slo-mo' coin handlings took a cue from Nate Liepzigs cigarette paper handling. That might be a good place to start work.

On the practical side, a retention pass can be done very smoothly and in an unhurried manner. Once everyone is comfortable with where they have seen the coin go... you have all the time you want to act as if the coin is getting folded away or evaporates. Acting is usually a better solution to dramatic problems than special effects.

One more suggestion... you might try using a coin stand. The dispostion of the coin is a bonus with the prop. What makes it useful is that it displays the coins face to the audience. People do like to see the props Smile

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Hey if you want a slow motion coin vanish? check this video out.

It's me and my fellow Seattle magicians goofing around doing stuff..

But in the middle of the clip, I do a slow motion coin vanish that people say it is the best. (ITS NOT MINE!!!) but check it out.

http://www.ballvase.com/tfrank/Session%202.mov

Tell me what you guys think of the vanish.

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Hey Tony, Good to see a fellow 'backroom tight circle' guy here! I liked the clip a bunch. You guys are rockin' up there. Say Hi to Tom for me!

Jonathan can you give a little more info on the 'Nowhere Palm'? I have heard it mentioned but I am not sure exactly what it is. You can PM me if you like.
Jason
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Leipzig's Coin Vanish from Vernon's Tribute to Nate Leipzig.
Curtis Kam
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Jason,

Geoff Latta posts here occaisionally, hopefully he can help you. And if not, he's sure to be talking about this in his presentation at the COINvention this September. It's a bit of a trek from Florida, but it'll be worth it.

Regarding the slo-mo vanish, the Silver Shifter might be an asset, especially in a standup/parlor situation that you seem to be describing.
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RS Magic(NL)
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Hello everybody,

Thanks for posting!
I am a bit further now with all the Idea's.

I let know which handling/effect works for me.

Richard
Carl Rheuban
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Tony -

Tony, You did that vanish great. Whose vanish is it? Is it published?

Carl
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Curtis,
I am going to try my best to make it to the COINvention. I have just started a new company and I might not be able to. I will give it my best effort to make it.
Jason
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Hey Carlr, uhmm I saw a little clip by Apollo Robinson. I don't know if that is his move either,

I got the video from Shoot Ogawa's site.

It was like Wizards-inn.com or something, I forgot. But basically I figured out the move from watching the clip like 100 times. lol!

Tony

P.S. I'm going to post a version that I think is a slow motion vanish, but it's just a variation of the fingertip vanish.
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Ron Crumley
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Watching this vanish was like seeing a naked woman in a phonebooth as you go by in a jet. It might have looked great, but it flew by so fast, so far away and with so much camera motion, for all practical reasons it never happened.

Just like the woman in the phonebooth; being able to see detail for a much longer period of time would have been great.
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hmm.. I guess I have to refilm it again hehe.

Expect something coming up soon.

This time in better detail. Although, a naked woman in a phonebooth might as well be a fat naked man in a phonebooth. But what ever. ^_^

For those who want to know how to do the vanish, the concealment is taught in Reed's new DVD, OVATIONS

get it, good stuff.

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