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JoyJoy Special user Germany 514 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06pgeueOv-8
...interesting... Btw. the guy in the background who is telling the director (Mark Mardoyan) what will happen next is Rafael (at least I guess that) |
Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
Thanks for sharing this link! Incredible insight into the behind the scenes production work.
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collective foundry Inner circle 1404 Posts |
That's nuts. For some reason I thought this was all edited post. Not live. Very insane. Very impressed. I noticed the music being used from soundtracks whereas the rest of the show used poor canned music. Would have liked to have seen the rest follow the format of using their intended pieces. Marks music for instance, with the spiker illusion, from what I remember using music from the scream sound track with some white zombie. A KILLER selection with the blow out with the fire. Totally shot with the stuff they used with this show .. was lame. Ah well
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voodoo Regular user Indonesia 163 Posts |
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On 2008-11-30 21:46, reedrc wrote: I think this is a regular live editing for a show that can't be retake, I've seen it too live. Most of this kind of production is done because it can minimize the cost and save more time, the don't have to re-do it again after the event. Thanks for the share
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collective foundry Inner circle 1404 Posts |
The precision of the cuts are insane. Yah the budget speaks for itself on this sort of event. Clearly though he was knowledgeable of the choreography. Very impressive. Speaking of directors, anyone here ever work with Michael Dimich
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voodoo Regular user Indonesia 163 Posts |
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On 2008-11-30 22:04, reedrc wrote: Yup! I agree with you.. it seems like the director is the magician. probably he'll said.."practice, practice and rehears" LOL
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jcmagicman Loyal user 221 Posts |
I was recently at the shoot for the 2009 World Magic Awards. It was held live for about a week with different magicians and audiences taped every evening. It was recorded at Renmar Studios in Los Angeles, CA. I got to see David Williamson in the audience. On stage, I saw Nathan Burton do the No Feet (Back Cracker illusion) and 3 other illusion pieces. Upcoming illusionist Joel Ward performed his Shadowbox and Subtrunk act. It was great to see how they set-up the cameras and the crane shots.
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collective foundry Inner circle 1404 Posts |
Looks like the original music WAS USED at the '08 awards. The canned music was placed OVER the performances for the final release of the taped version (and a shame, too).
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Swann101 Special user 558 Posts |
I am sure the director had video footage previously recorded to look at before the life show... This makes it easier to do live edits when you sort of know what to expect. Still, a great job!
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hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts |
Amazing. That is real magic in itself. I believe the person giving some directions there is Bellamie Blackstone. It sure sounds like Bellamie.
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Frank Simpson Special user SW Montana 883 Posts |
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On 2008-12-01 06:59, Swann101 wrote: Probably not. Usually for this type of event, they'll do a camera rehearsal. Performances do change from time to time, and certainly in a different venue there will be some tweaks. The director also might request a specific bit of "punctuation" from the performer. An example of this might be at 6:35 when Hans picks up the cloth and flicks it directly at the camera. Certainly, there would be no reason to do this move in a live show, but it makes for a nice camera moment. I think it's important to note not only the competence of the director but of the camera ops and the switcher as well. The whole crew must be a well-oiled machine. Take some time to get a feeling for what goes on, and it demystifies a bit (much like our own craft!). Of course, you notice that certain cameras are always shooting the same thing. 1 is the crane for wide shots. 2 and 3 are the mid-close cameras. 4 and 5 are the wider side angles. 6 and 7 are the audience cameras. When each camera knows what to shoot (and what not to shoot), the director is assured of having a good camera to take to cover any need. He calls most specific camera directions to cameras 1, 2 and mostly 3. They know what to shoot, but he'll call for a tighter or moving camera to get the cut he wants. When I shoot live events I use three cameras, but I record the feed for each camera. Camera 1 is my wide or master shot. Camera 2 is usually used for mid shots or will frame the majority of the immediate action. Camera 3 is often just used for close ups, and is often handheld or on a Steadicam rig. In post, I can sync the cameras and then roll the show and switch it live very much like what was demonstrated in this video. The benefit I have in doing this is if I do a take that is not quite right, I can come back later and slide it to where I need it to be. Very nice. It's always nice to see a good tight crew like this who knows what they're doing! |
IllusionJack Veteran user Las Vegas, Nevada 376 Posts |
Wow, really neat clip! So interesting to see this behind-the-scenes look. Nice to see Klok's routine is performed sequentially and shot and mixed live as it happens.
For my live shoots, I'll typically use anywhere from 2-4 cameras... similar setup as Frank Simpson... Camera 1 is the close up cam, Camera 2 for medium shots and pans, Camera 3 for wide establishing shots. And sometimes, a novelty shot of some sort with Camera 4. I just had an event this weekend for which I used a Sony Anycast, which is a self-contained, laptop-size live event mixer which can switch between up to 6 inputs live and record to HDD. It also has an on-board audio mixer, titler/DSK system, etc., etc. A very cool tool! What fun it would be to work on a big, fast-paced project such as this with all those cameras at your disposal - beautiful! --Jack |
magic-taylor Regular user 180 Posts |
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On 2008-11-30 22:48, jcmagicman wrote: I believe this taping was for the Masters of Illusion Series. |
magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
Magic Taylor,
Yes, it was the taping of the Master of Illusions regarding Jcmagicman's comment. When I was there, the director walked through everything and laid-out his camera angles. But, this is not the final cut. They also record all the camera views and take care of the bad views in editing. These people are true pros and great to work with.
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Orphie New user 8 Posts |
The first hour or so was repeatedly butchered by ill-timed cuts.
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RVH Magic Special user 877 Posts |
I was there with the director to discuss the show of Hans Klok.
He was very happy with it becase this way he knew what was coming next and how to film it. |
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