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Hey, I'm going to see him on Tuesday at The Luxor. I will try to keep neutral in regards to all the negative press he's gotten and post you guys a review afterwards. Have gotten really good seatings, so there should be a good chance of watching the whole ordeal close-up.
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Good luck, I hope it is better than what I am hearing.
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I can't wait to hear how it was.
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OK .... Where's the review? Smile
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Give him time. When you are in Vegas, the last thing you do is sit down in front of a computer and write a review. Many other things to do out there.

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Let us know after you watched, ok?!

Don't forget to grab a pop corn, ok?
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Waiting for the review. Smile
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I went to Vegas on Monday and Tuesday. Monday night I wanted to go see Believe, but I didn't want to pay full price for a show that I heard wasn't really that good, so I went to the tickets for half-off place. First, I asked what they had, and they had Copperfield and a skating show. I asked, "Do you have Believe tickets?" He said that I shouldn't spend my money. So, I didn't...I went to Hooters, drank and ate chicken wings... Wooo-hooo, those chicken wings!!!
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You went to hooters and the only thing you noticed was the chicken wings. You must of drank a lot then. LOL

Check out KA next time. That is worth full price. I will give you an inside secret. Pay for the back seats. You get to see everything, and you didn't have to pay so much for them.

Also, check out Lance's show. Worth every penny. Words can not describe how amazing Lance is as a performer. He is a true at the art. He also tears on Criss in the show. That was too funny!

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Ahhh, I haven't seen Lance for awhile. I should have gone... I was with my girlfriend, so I just noticed her!!!!
My friend, Thom, works for O.... So next time, I will hit KA and Lance!!!!
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Anthony,

You will enjoy both shows. Lance has made many updates to the show since I have seen it last, and the updates are amazing. It was the best show and worth it.

KA was just a theatrical amazement. Not sure if that is the best way to put it, but the stuff they did was just amazing. Watching it online does no justice for what they do on stage. There where several parts where you heard the audience gasp. It was that cool.

Next time I am out there, I am going to hit up O. That show is supposed to be amazing, too.

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On 2008-12-01 02:15, Star_magic wrote:
Hey, I'm going to see him on Tuesday at The Luxor. I will try to keep neutral in regards to all the negative press he's gotten and post you guys a review afterwards. Have gotten really good seatings, so there should be a good chance of watching the whole ordeal close-up.


Someone said that the show was going down for a while. Is that true?
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As far as the break... only going by the broad explanation I was given from those inside the company. I called about performance times and dates over December-January, as I may be in town and was told dates were being sold but were also tentative. When I asked why they were tentative, I was told that there were possible changes being made within the show and scheduling.

There is a break in performances between Jan 6 and Jan 23. That could be what they were getting at as far as a break is concerned. Not sure.
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Haha, ok, guys, thanks. I actually just came from the 2. show now. I was invited for the 2nd, so these 2 shows gave me a really good base to place my review on. Trying to be as neutral and not too magician'ish in my perspectives. Just going through my notes, so will have it up in a day or 2 at the latest. But one thing I can say, it's one of the most "unusual" shows I've seen, and it definitely didn't turn me into a "Believer".... Smile

On 2008-12-06 01:05, Star_magic wrote:
My opinion on the question, I don't think the show is going down. Just between the 2 shows I saw, they DID make some smaller alterations and changes so it seems that both Angel and Denoncourt (the director) are working to get it perfected. It sells out every night. At least, for now... With 100 mill. USD invested, I couldn't imagine they would take the show down in the near future.
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I will be in Vegas in 2 weeks, so I might check out Believe. I want to see it for myself before I give my opinion. I saw Lance's show 2 years ago, and yes, lots of updates on his show.
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This comes from Luna Shimada herself. She likes Believe "from a theatrical standpoint," but if she was the one doing the show, she would have added more magic.

I would probably enjoy the show, looking at it from a technical view. I like all the Cirque shows.
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I saw 'Believe' a week ago. It is neither a good Cirque show, nor a good magic show. Criss Angel is an awful performer on stage. He is the worst thing about his own show. Everything you've heard is true. It's a complete train wreck.

The theatre is stunning, and it deserves a show worthy of it.
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Whew, brutal. Well, hopefully the "time off" for the retool of the
show will prove worthy of everyone's expectations. I truly wonder
what Criss is doing with all of this feedback. Anyone know what
HIS idea or HIS thoughts of the situation are? From the inside?
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I liked the old, creepy, goth Criss Angel. You know, when he didn't have Mindfreak. His illusion show clips that I have seen on his TV special, Supernatural, look awesome. My favorite was the Metamorphosis. Here is the link to the Criss I like, in case you have no idea what I am talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mOzPcJlJoQ
and also this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOTMj0Qq7zU
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Ok, here goes: We had the opportunity to catch the show twice in the same week, so the following will reflect our opinions as magicians, but also the opinions of the laymen in our party. The theatre at Luxor is totally redone for the show and is very beautifully designed, and that made our expectations go up a bit, even though it has been hard not to get too influenced by the reviews lately, since almost every critic really was hard. Angel stated several times that if people went and expected the show to be as Mindfreak one would get disappointed, since it’s supposed to be more of a look inside his mind... Later on, this became a place not many of the audience members felt like staying, more than the 1 hour and 20 minutes the show demanded.

Like Mesias, Angel is seen levitating onto the stage from above to music louder than usually played at a rock concert. Prior to that, we just witnessed a video on a big screen showing a lot of highlights from his TV series. Something that really builds expectation. But hey, wait a minute, didn’t he just said the show would be nothing like the series?.... YEP! But the video built up expectations, and that made the air out of the balloon animal as fast as a coyote can run when we saw him levitating down behind a transparent curtain that was conveniently rolled down in front of the audience, blurring the vision.

Halfway through the show, Angel shouts out: “Are you still there?” answered by a pretty calm audience. He wasn’t pleased and continues: “I didn’t hear you,” and this provokes somewhat a louder response, probably because people were tired of being forced to react. I couldn’t help laughing because of the irony, since several elderly people were seen leaving the theatre in the middle of the Magical Titanic.

As a fan of magic and illusion, the show really didn’t “get there” and did not live up to our expectations. If you’re a fan of Cirque, you will leave disappointed guaranteed since not a single Cirque act (Circus) is found in the show. All Angel's material has basically been done before and, in many ways, better. With the words: “This box has been hanging up there the entire time,” he introduced the first real “act”. A “groundbreaking new invention” that includes a box suspended over the stage, containing a paper with words that was chosen by random by an audience member minutes before. Not the biggest spectacle to get the audience in the mood. As a magician, I felt insulted when I witnessed Angel trying to “bond with spirit and the energy of the audience,” and he got the premonition of the word several weeks ago. Something he himself ridiculed and put down another colleague on stage for in Phenomenon.... remember?!?

But suddenly, something happens. A big machine is brought on stage and is presented as a “Tesla Coil” that creates 60.000 volts (maybe inspired by the movie The Prestige). Angel is going to challenge that machine and, while he prepares, several experts are telling about the danger involved. I’m exited, finally something we haven’t seen before. Yeeeeahh! I barely had that thought in my mind for a second, and suddenly a big explosion is heard and everything goes black. Angel falls to the floor. Paramedics are called on stage, making it seem like an accident. So the Tesla Coil wan’t used, only to make up an excuse to stage his death and make a transition into his mind... After a sequence of what I would call “The horrible symphony of abused tr..doors,” he crawls through an opening in the stage floor as a part of the storyline underlining and pointing out how he made people and trees appear and vanish just moments before. The show continues to something I would call “Alice on Crack in Wonderland,” where one act being more avant garde as the other makes their way to the stage. These acts included illusions such as Interlude, where a girl appears out of Angel’s stomach, several costume changing acts and a totally unmotivated straight jacket escape, hanging upside down over the audience. The reason as to why I think it’s unmotivated is that there was no timeline, not an element of excitement. He had all the time in the world. After that, he’s hoisted directly down into a substitution trunk where he exchanges place with a dancer behind a massive wall of smoke and fire. If he chose to bring in the Space Shuttle, no one would have been the wiser.

There is a deeper storyline going on in the show, well hidden away though. The music is over-the-top phenomenal, very well produced and put together, and the talented and skilled dancers as well as the 5 clowns are crucial in keeping the show together.

“Do you want to see something from season 2,” Angel shouts to the audience (with reference to the series Mindfreak)? And after that, 2 huge monsters enter the stage. But how about all us Europeans and Chinese people (who took up half of the theatre) which weren’t that lucky to be able to watch those? Did he loose us now?!?

It gets crystal clear early in the show that Angel is a character created on TV and that he lacks a huge amount of experience in dealing and performing in front of a live audience. He curses, using f, s, and all the other bleep words. Not suitable for a live performance, at least not here. He stands out from his cast in that sense, the class difference is huge. But I guess he has the opportunity to change; after all, a contract of 10 years and with nearly shows everyday must be able to do something. Though, 100 mill. USD seems like a huge amount of money for a show that definitely needs changes and alterations daily in order to get the flaws out. The highlight as I see it, despite his weak levitations and the sawing in half without boxes, is his dove act. It’s the most well executed I’ve ever seen, and judging by the applause, the audience loves it too. Despite of all the big props and machinery, it’s the most magical part of the show. It’s proves, yet again, that it’s not about the machinery and the size of the collection, but also about the simpler things that shows definite skill. His show would be so much better if it wasn’t for the fact that he sometimes hides the magic behind see-through curtains and walls of smoke.

Us and some of the local professionals really hoped for this show to hit it big and boost the box office sales, getting audiences into magic shows all over again. We tried to go in with a neutral mindset, but it was hard not to get influenced by the lack of applause, the contradicting psychology (in abusing tr..doors, being for both the “magic” and sometimes visible acts). It’s a very dark and gloomy show, definitely not a positive experience, making it seem that the 108 USD was a lot of money for the ticket. The tickets for a show like Penn & Teller is almost on the same price level, and here you really get what you pay for. Their show is EXACTLY Angel’s contrast. Positive, beautiful, pure and clean magic (and a STUNNING ball levitation), simple staging and no “audience members/fans” on the payroll. So you can put together the contrast to what was just stated about P & T, and that is what makes up the long awaited and “hyped” show called Believe.
With those words, Angel rounds his show up, but neither me or the rest of our party ever got to discover what exactly he wanted us to BELIEVE.....

If you are interested in a set list, I’ll put it up sometime soon.
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