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Sam Sandler
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Hi magic Café,

I am a relativley new user and so far so good.

I like it. its fun informative and a great way for me to not only give back to magic but also learn some stuff too.

I have been performing full time for more than 20 years and lucky to have met and shared the stage with so many other magicians. I have perofrmed all across the country and love magic, whether it be perofrming, lecturing or learning it is all fun. However a turn of events have created a new set of rules for me you see
I recently went deaf. it ws over the last few years that I have began losing my hearing and hearing aids helped alot, however in the last 6 months things have turned much worse.

I can no longer talk on the phone with out a special system that allows me to hear and see what you say. I have had to hire an answering service as I can answer the phone and hear the customers. I have a very difficult time hearing and understanding TV as well as any movies or other DVDs that I watch.

especially magic ones. there is no Closed captioning on them. I myself am producing or I should say reproducing my recent DVD but this time we are adding closed captioning to have the first ever magic dvd with closed caption. I am working on another one with the help of several other top magicians.

so I have said all that to say this as I have learned about the magic society for deaf magicians I have discovered there is nothing out there to for us to communicate with each other other than e-mail and video phones.

so hey would you grant my christmas wish and add the society of world deaf magicians!

I mean heck you even have a spot for the canadians:) just kidding there A

there are 300 part time amature and professional magicians out there me being one of them. I think it woud be great as hearing magicians may want to ask deaf magicians a question about handling a deaf volunteer. I can think of a million things why this would be great.

if you have any other questions about it please do not hesitate to contact me.

thanks and have a great day.
sam
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Thank you so very much Sam for mentioning this. I am so surprised that I did not think of this or mentioning it sooner. Shame on me. As many of you on the Café know, I too am a deaf magician. There are many of us out there and more then some folks may realize.

I think it would be an AWESOME idea to add The Society of World Deaf Magicians along side of those organizations that are already listed such as SAM, IBM and Kidabara. The organization would then be able to have a central place to talk about topics such as closed captioning for magicians and their DVDs they put out. It would be a place for news and events. Also a place where hearing magciians can post information and questions about the society etc.

I really think this would be a good thing for magic and for the Magic Café and hope you would really consider adding this organization to the Café area. It would help so many people to become more active and to also give the society a new voice and avenue for communication.

Thanks so much for your consideration. if you have any questions at all, please just PM me a I would be happy to assist or help in any way that I can.

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Sam, thank you for starting this thread. If you would not have spoke up I would not have known of the Society of World Deaf Magicians. Please send me a PM so I will know where to donate to. Thanks.

Staff, I agree with Kyle. I do believe it would be good to have a separate forum for the Society of World Deaf Magicians because there are other magicians who spoke up previously.

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Thank you Mike. I really appreciate your kind words. I will try and get that information to you but have it at home and have to teach class tonight. I do appreciate your thoughts and complements.

It is a really great organization and group of people who are all deaf or hard of hearing. We meet and hold a convention every year so that other deaf magicians from around the world can join and share the magic and learning that takes place.

I think an area here at the Café would be a great way for our members to be able to chime in and become more involved with the Café. It is also a great way in which hearing magicians can learn more about the organization and become educated or even ask questions of the members.

if anyone has any questions that sam or I can answer, please just let us know. We would really love to see this become a part of the organization and magic clubs areas of the Café that are already up for SAM, IBM and others.

Thanks for your consideration.

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HI Dynamike,

first let me say thanks for your interest in helping. I should also mention to you and any one else reading this - that I have asked Kyle to help me with some of the projects. kyle and I have been friends for many years and happen to live near each other as well. matter of fact Kyle and his wife Kelly were over my house last night for dinner and to discuss moving forward with some of my projects.

As kyle mentioned he shares in the difficulties of hearing. both of us have faced many difficulties in our everyday lives and of course in our shows.

let me give you all a few more details as to what I am trying ot accomplish.

first and foremost to get the society of world Deaf magaicans there own spot here on the Café and firmly believe that the wonderful people here at the Café will grant me my wish. ( that did not sound like I was buttering them up did it:)

You see just a few weeks ago I was asked to perform opening night for a new weekly magic show in NY times square. I accepted and went to perform but little did I know that this night would be life changing for me. just 10 minutes into my 30 minute act something freaky took place- both hearing aids went out (died) at the same time. a litte sweat got into the battery case of the hearing aids and fizzle they died. I had to finish my set completely deaf!

now I have had one go out before but never both. up to this point I have been in denial of my hearing loss. I did not want to accept that I was deaf and most certainatly did not want others to know I was deaf. but it was at this very moment that it hit me I AM DEAF. so I simply explained to the audience what had just happend and that I would be performing tht rest of my show deaf. I moved one of the speakers and pointed it directly at me and asked the soud tech to pump the music on that side for me. he did and the night ended on a very high note.

many said they appreciated my honesty and were also floored that I could perform deaf- me too:)

I have shared all of that with you as that was the moment I realized that something needs to be done to educate & inspire others about deaf magicians and deaf culture. I have always used my show to encourage and inspire my audiences but now I must add inspiration to thosse who face this invisible disability- hearing loss.

So I have created the first ever insturctional magic DVD to be out shortly after the new year and working onl another one with Kyle. as well as many other projects. as Kyle mentioned we have our own conventions every 2 years where we get to meet and talk about magic and our shows and catch up with friends. but it would sure be nice to have a central location to communicate with each other through out the year and I believe that the Café is just the place for us to do so.

if you would like to be involved either finacially or through other means please do not hesitate to contact me (sam sandler) or kyle for that matter.

much more info will be available on my website after the new year.

thanks for reading

remember magic is not what you buy- it is what you do

sam
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Of course you all know I had to stop in here. Smile

the topic of a section on the Café for people with "differences" (That's my word for what some call disabilities). In fact Steve Brooks once contacted me about it so I know that it is something he's been considering for a long time. When he first contacted me about this, oh it must have been a few years ago, my response was that I thought it was a great idea but I also wondered how many people will actually participate in it. I know of the Society of Deaf magicians. I'm not a member but I'm in a recent book about deaf magicians (I think Kyle is too). I've meet a few members and if this section for the deaf magicians ever comes to be I'll definitely spread the word and participate in it as much as I can. Kyle and I have talked for hours in IM about issues we deal with because of our hearing (Some pretty funny moments there too. LOL). So the bottom line is a section on the Café for deaf magicians and/or magicians with a "difference" definitely has my vote.

You know what just came to mind? Sam, Kyle and I coming together and form a "The magic of silnce" show. Could be something unique.

By the way Sam. Kyle and I have already had many discussions about it but I know how you feel. We're a lot alike as far as once being able to hear then loosing our hearing. I used to have hearing aids too and I remember them going out on me. I also remember when I had a hard time excepting the fast that I was deaf. It seems our difference is it happened to me when I was a teenager so I've had more time to adjust. So even if the new section of the Café doesn't come to be let me know if you run into something regarding deafness. Who knows, maybe it's something I've already been through.

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After regaining my ability to hear after 20 years of deafness. I learned that there is magic all around you. The simplest sounds that amazed me you probably ignore. Look and listen around you right now. You'll find something you didn't notice before.
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Hi ron,

Yes Kyle mentioned youand said that I should contact you.

I have a show in the works for perfrming as a deaf magicain. I like the idea of us getting together and putting on a show we shoudl pursue that.

Hey Ron I do not know a lot about you so coudl you Pm Im something m me so that we can talkabout this stuff.

you can just e-mail me
I look forward to hearing from you - Pun intended:)

sam
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I, too, have advocated for a forum dedicated to magicians for special needs, not just for the deaf. Such forums are needed now, more than ever, as many magicians are getting on in years. My forays into the local magic clubs have convinced me of that.
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Bummer, Sam!

I've had behind-the-ear hearing aids for the last three years and have fewer problems with moisture or wax - wax was more of a problem for me with the old in the ear. Still, if I get a moisture in a tube, the aid cuts out on me, & I have to physically clear the bubble with a thin wire.
I've had to work when an aid was in the shop, & that was no fun. In fact, it's no fun anytime one of them is in the shop!

Marlene Clark



You see just a few weeks ago I was asked to perform opening night for a new weekly magic show in NY times square. I accepted and went to perform but little did I know that this night would be life changing for me. just 10 minutes into my 30 minute act something freaky took place- both hearing aids went out (died) at the same time. a litte sweat got into the battery case of the hearing aids and fizzle they died. I had to finish my set completely deaf!
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Jaxon is correct, I did approach him several years ago with the thought of creating a special area. Obviously there is now enough interest...give me a week or so and I'll see what I can do for you.

Suggestions? Thoughts?

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Steve, FYI, here's a link to the Org's site

http://www.2010wdmf.com/wdm-society.htm
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Hi steve

thanks for granting my christmas wish.

as for thoughts not sure what you want but having our own section will be wonderful.
if you are refering to specific threads to start I would suggest history of society of world deaf magicians.
then titles to into like "grand illusions" you could have

music and music cues - a discussion on using music and how you handle peroforming to music

tricks with out words - discussion on effects that can be done with out having to speak

sorry to cut this short but my daughter needs me right now so I got to run.

Yea for magic Café putting up a spot for us.
thank you thank you thank you

merry christmas and happy chanukah and happy new year to all

sam
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This is simply WONDERFUL News. Sam and I have both been working very hard on many new projects with the aim to raise awareness, educate and fund various aspects of deaf and hard of hearing culture and ideas.

It is our hopes through these projects to get people understand about how to perform for deaf and hard of hearing indviduals and give them tools they may need. This section is just the start and we can not thank you enough for doing this for us and for all deaf and HH magicians around the world.

This can and will be an area where deaf and HH magicians from around the world can talk and share ideas with each other. It is also an area we can educate hearing magicians who may have questions that we can directly answer for them.

We can empower magicians from all walks of life and show them how they can get involved in learning American Sign language or even simple ways in which to perform their show for a deaf audience.

I think if Steve sets up the area, we can go in and start and create the threads. That would not be a problem at all. We certainly have information that we can post there to get started and to share.

If you would like, or feel it beneficial, you could have 2 sections formed, much like in the "fellowship of christian magicians section. In this section is the fellowiship or organization section and also a section called "the good news".

If you want to take that avanue. then perhaps have a sectiopn being the "Society of World Deaf Magicians" and then maybe a section called something like "Special Needs". The first woulod be a section on the deaf organization and postings and threads rrelated to deaf history of magic, culture, Q and a for folks etc.

The second area could be an area that is for any magicians or entertainers with any handicaps at all. This would be for them. It would also be an area if people are working for handicap people, they can post questions there. If someone has a student or child who is blind or autistic and wanting to get into magic, they can post their thoughts there for others to help. This area would include all handicap magicians and performing for the handicap.

It is just an idea. It would then be 2 sections that could benefit people greatly. Thanks again Steve and the entire Café staff. You have really made my holiday and Sam and I and others can not thank you enough for doing this for us.

If you need a moderator, I would be happy to asisst with that. I am on here a lot and have been around a while. lol It would be my pleasure.

If anyone here would like to get involved in the projects that Sam and I are beginning to work on, please PM us. We would be happy to talk to you as we need support and help as we progress with many ideas for the future.

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If anyone needs support with the possible forum, I will be happy to assist. I like volunteering my time to help others.

When we get this all taking care of, let's work on an African American forum next.
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Great job Kyle.

that's where I was headed and you did a great job with supplying great ideas for this new thread.

when I asked Kyle to come on board to help me get the word out about deaf magicians I must admit I did not think this much would take place this quick. Kyle has proven to me that he is indeed the right pick to help and partner with me and I am sure others down the road to help encourage and inspire people of all walks of life regardless of there disabilities. we can overcome and conquer!

HEY STEVE,
if you need a monitor for the society of world deaf magicians spot may I suggest Kyle to be that person. besides the fact that he has 40 billion post I believe he has credible words of wisdom and I am sure if there is something he is not sure of or needs to check something he would not hesitate to check with me or some one else that he knows. I would be happy to also offer myself as a helper to the monitor. I am confident that I can make the time to be available and those times I am away on tour and not reachable I would still be incontact with Kyle.

I like the idea of a good news section as it will alow others to post... well good news. maybe how they overcame a problem in their show or a new accomplishment.

would also be a great spot for Kyle and I to update others on our projects. we have quite a few on the plate. once this area is set up kyle and I will begin to update everyone and inform you of what help we may need.

this is truly a fun and exciting time and I thank everyone that has already shown support.

sam
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Thanks you Sam. If anyone needs any other ideas or information to make this happen, please just PM me or Sam as well. Either of us would be happy to assist or to give further ideas or suggestions. Our pleasure. We want to thank the Café for looking into this and making this a reality. I think it will help so many folks down the road and also bring about awareness and education as well.

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Kyle,

Do you have current contact information for the Society of Deaf Magicians (e.g, website, address, email, phone, contact person, etc)?

Would appreciate any and all help I can get on this matter. Smile
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I too posted a while back about having a section for those with, as Jaxon put it, "differences" as well as performing for those folks with differences.

Besides deafness there are many who have weak or no appendages, speech impediments, etc, etc.
How to perform for people with differences has also been discussed here at the Café.

To somehow combine them is a idea.
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Hi steve
I have all the current infomation you need.

I can either list it here or tell me where to send it.

thanks

sam
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Hi steve I just sent you an e-mail with all the details and contact info you will need.
If you need anything else do not hesitate to ask.

thanks again

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