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fotballski Regular user Norway 183 Posts |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBHJCT2UyAU
I've seen this effect several times, and it has killed me every time. What is the name of this trick? Where can I buy it? Is it practical? Is it good for close-up, or only for television? Is it doable for someone that does not have a lot of money? Can I do this wherever I want? I LOVE this effect, it's almost like real magic, and Doug Henning makes me belive in it although my intelectual tells me it can't be done. Regards, Daniel. PS! Please answer fast, I need this one NOW!!!!
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Jef Eaton Special user 526 Posts |
Daniel, This is a version of the dancing handkerchief made famous by Blackstone and others. It is usually done with bigger props on stage and needs offstage help. There is a one man version by Sean Begonia that is very slick but is not inexpensive. I hope that helps.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
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On 2008-12-21 11:40, fotballski wrote: The Dancing Hank Quote:
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It's a sage effect. It can't be done close up Quote:
Depends what verson you get. You can actually make it yourself but you'll need a few assistants. Quote:
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This one will take quite a bit of time and practice to perfect. It can't be done NOW
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fotballski Regular user Norway 183 Posts |
I would be so happy if there was a close up version with no assistance.
"Someone creates a trick, many people perfect it, but its final success in front of an audience depends on the person who presents it"
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carbone1853 Loyal user RI USA 239 Posts |
This is something that you can start to work on NOW, but will take a long time to master. If you rush the trick it will look very bad. If you want your version to look as good as Doug Hennings version it will take a long time at least months maybe years. That's no reason to not work on it, it is a great trick.
Also it is not a close up thick. Good luck |
Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Not close-up? I recall seeing Blackstone bring the handkerchief down into the audience, as close as you can get. Of course he didn't do the full routine up close, but if you can contrive to have the real action happen at a distance before you can capture the hank and bring it back to the spectators, there's no reason why you can't do the same thing.
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carbone1853 Loyal user RI USA 239 Posts |
You are correct in saying the trick can be preformed in close proximity to the audience. There are several marketed versions that you could do very close to the audience. But that dose not make it a close up trick. Most people use the term "close up" to refer to a performing venue or performing style, not a measure of distance. So, when I said it is not a close up trick, I was saying it was not well suited to perform in a venue that the typical close up performer works. I did not mean you can not be close to the audience while performing the trick. The Zig-Zag could be done close to the audience but is not considered a "close up" trick. The dancing hank has more extensive set up and staging requirements than your typical close up trick.
For instance, on stage you could, "contrive to have the real action happen at a distance", but in the typical "close up" situation this would usually not be practical. |
Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
Additionally, let's recognize that this is a much better stage trick than a TV trick. Zoom lenses really hurt the effect.
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Dennis Loomis 1943 - 2013 2113 Posts |
I was with Doug in Windsor, Ontario at the old Top Hat night club when we met up to see Mandrake the magician. (Yes, there was a real Leon Mandrake.) Mandrake inspired us in many ways, but one of his better effects was his version of the Dancing Handkerchief. It was the first time we had seen a handkerchief jump in and out of a bottle. (The Blackstone version did not include this feature.)Later we saw Ralph Adams do his great routine at an Abbott's Magic Get-Together, which featured an even larger jug that the gallon jug that Mandrake used.
Doug and his crew researched every version of the Dancing Handkerchief and his version was probably the best ever, in terms of both the method and the presentation. His pair of handkerchiefs did things that could not be done with the setup that Blackstone used, or the setup that Mandrake used. But, I liked Ralph Adam's finish for the trick a lot. Doug did not end in the same manner. Dennis Loomis Dennis Loomis
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Mike Ching Regular user Honolulu, Hawaii 192 Posts |
Many years ago I was doing research for what became "NEW ANIMATIONS" -The Dancing Handkerchief Book. We talked to the Mandrakes, Harry Blackstone Jr., Ralph Addams and many others. The Addams and Mandrake routines were drawn up and included in the book.
Best I can tell, Addams was influenced by Blackstone and came up with his "Bottle" routine which the Henning TV bit most closely resembles (multiple hanks flying in and out of the bottle). Interesting Note: the room in back of Doug and Robin has several patterned bolts of cloth which creates a motley backdrop helping to conceal the gimmick, Doug himself is strategically dressed in sparkling cloth shirt, which is also a "Backround" ideal for hiding lines!. (Ralph Addams had fine ideas but actually left the mechanical details to son RALPH ADDAMS JR. to bring to mechanical reality. Magic owes a lot to BOTH of them. Thanks to Bill Smith for introducing me to Ralph Jr. Variations of the Addams routine have been used by Doug, Copperfield, Siegfried and Roy (tiger tails) and lately Criss Angel.) The Mandrake routine is similar but simplified and highly practical as it travels completely in a ROSSI-type wine bottle, complete. It is amazingly practical, with materials a traveling show could easily pick up in any grocery or sundry store! Thanks to Leons' son LON MANDRAKE for helping me learn about this famous routine. I hope it is alright to mention the book has just been reprinted and is going out to wholesaler MURPHYS this week. I can also send it out by US priority mail/domestic for $50 to those contacting me direct. It is in the libraries of many of todays top pros, and a follow-up FLOATING BALL books has been long in the works. Magical Aloha Mike Ching (PS: I remember on TV Doug mentioned you a lot, Dennis. I am a big fan of your Doll House design!) |
Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
I think Steve Duschek's Waltzing Matilda is a novel variation on the dancing handkerchief. According to Magic Fakers at http://magicfakers.blogspot.com/2007/10/......ief.html
"(Duschek) sold the rights to Tenyo who released it as 'Ballerina Hank' with improvements by Shigeru Sugawara." I haven't seen the Ballerina Hank. Can anyone elaborate on the Sugawara improvements? You can see a video of the "Ballerina Hank" at http://www.tenyo.co.jp/magic_en/alllist/index.html I think a number of other dealers ripped off the Duschek idea and Ballerina Hank is apparently the only authorized version. Re: Ralph Addams--I remember seeing his version of the dancing hank and the finale when the hank was covered with a large foulard/cloth and a human being appeared from under the cloth. It was a shock ending to say the least. As I recall, Ralph sent a video or film of the dancing hank to the network (ABC?) producers and they (the producers) at first declined to book him because they thought what they saw was camera trickery. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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