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Bradley Morgan
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Ok, i am going admit i am mostly a card guy , but i do coin stuff. I have lately started to get into the coin thing and i am loving it.

I am going to be buying

Palms of steel

Palms of steel 2

Palms of steel 3

Coin Ovations

Here it is

What coins or gaffs will i need for these four DVDs.

If i need to get coins what is the best set and where do i find them.

Thanks to all

Brad

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If your a card guy moving into coins you should start with bobo,roth,ramsay.
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Hey, it's not impossible to start off in coinmagic with the "Palms of Steel" series, and then move onto "Coin Ovations". You'll have to be pretty good at reading between the lines, thought, because some basic knowledge is assumed. Even without much background in coin magic, you can do "Coercive Purse" "Inverted Matrix" and some of the other effects without reference to any other source. (Notice I'm not saying you won't have to practice)

It can be done, and when you have, you'll be miles ahead. Aim High.

For most of the "Palms" series, you'll need six silver coins of a size you can manipulate most readily. This is generally either halves or Silver Dollars. Get good silver ones, these will spend a lot of time in your hands. You're going to need three faux Chinese coins of the same size. You'll also need a silver half dollar (this can be one of the six already described) an old Australian penny, a West African Ten Cent Piece, a C/S coin, one silver 3" Jumbo Coin, and a 5" Chinese Coin. You'll also need a silk hankerchief and a "karate coin" that matches your six main coins. Oh yeah, and you'll need one more silver half that you're going to mutilate.

This sounds like an intimidating list, but it is really a small pile of coins, and it does allow you to perform over three hours of coin magic. You'll also need other things, like coin purses, purse frames, and the like. Probably you already have 90% of this stuff.

This is for the "Palms" series. For Reed's Coin Ovations, you'll have to add a Sh*** for the main coins, and one more gaffed coin I can't describe here.

Finally, there are two "layout" effects on the DVD's you've mentioned. "Tiennamin Square" from PoS2 ends with 13 assorted "Chinese" coins, all coming from a small purrse. The first effect on Coin Ovations is Reed's "13 coin assembly" for which you'll need a dozen matching coins. Both effects end with an impressive display of wealth, and you'll want to give thema try.

So, I hope this answers your questions. Welcome to the world of coins. Come to the light.....
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Thank you Mr. Curtis for the info.

I have been doing coin magic for about three years now but i just don't perform coin tricks for people(except coin that falls up,jumbo coin productions and some of the others) I know i little bit about coins but not as much as i would like to know.
I have always played around with coin magic and slights with coins. But never really done much with it, and i just thought i need a little challenge with coins.

I have been very interested in your videos Mr.Curtis, i have been trying to read all the posts about them and they sound awesome. I have always shied away from coin tricks because most of the stuff is bland and simple.

I have a few questions.

What is a faux Chinese coins?

For the karate coin, is it the one in the magic stores that you can buy?

If so i have big fingers( i am 16 years old 6ft.7in. 319 pounds) so you can imagine that the coin probably will not fit my fingers.
Or is that not something i need to worry about?

Where can i get the Australian penny, West African Ten cent Piece?

I have found a 4 1/2 inch chinese coin but not a 5inch. Will that matter that much?
Where can i find a 5in Chinese coin.

Sorry about all the questions.

Do the small chinese coins have to match the jumbo?

Is a C/S coin a copper/silver coin?


Thank you soooo much for all your help.
Your faithful coin admirer,
Brad
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Curtis,

Thanks for the information above. I wanted to start with POS-3. Could you further break down the necessary non-coin materials needed for each of the POS series?
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No worries about the questions, Brad, I'll answer what I can without running afoul of the Café's "exposures" policy:

"faux Chinese Coins": Judging from your description, you'll be wanting to use silver dollars for your usual working coins. Most of the material in the "Palms" series focuses on that. You'll want contrasting coins of the same size for effects involving changes and transformations. The most contrast is generally achieved with coins of a dark color (old copper or brass) and with a hole through the center (which is the only characteristic that's visible in a dimly-lit bar) Chinese coins are a good choice for this, but real chinese coins have not been available in the dollar size for nearly a thousand years (so I'm told) So I recommend the use of replicas, sold for making jewelry or bringing prosperity by altering the flow of universal energy. (i.e. Feng Shui) Of course, Todd Lassen can provide you with authentic pieces, if you're a stickler.

The Karate Coin required for the "Palms" routine "Through and Through" is NOT the so-called "Realistic" karate coin commonly sold in magic stores. The "shards" are not an asset to my handling, which has other goals than to convince the audience that they ought not to mess with your "index finger of death". Again, given your description, you'll probably have to have one made from one of your working coins. I made my own, but I know many magicians who had no problem finding someone with real tools and skills to make thiers.

The gaff I use is described in Coinmagic, Roth's "Expert Coin Magic" and Jean Hugard's "Coin Magic" (under the title "The Finger Gimlet")Also, watch for Garrett Thomas' much-anticpated release regarding this. He has some good ideas about this sort of gaff, and should have something out soon.

The exotic copper coins are best found in a coin shop, or coin shops on the internet. The Australian penny is not hard to find, and an old English Penny or New Zealand penny will work just as well. The West African 10 cent (or an East African 1 cent) are a little harder to come buy. You can get buy with a half dollar sized "Chinese" coin, if your change the presentation.

Would that all "Chinese" coins of whatever size matched, and were available in XXL sizes. Unfortunately, until I amass a small fortune and actually mint the "Universal Real Genuine Phony Chinese Coin" set, what you've got (and I've got) will have to do. They'll be fine.

and regarding your last question, the answer is "yes". Smile
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Bradley Morgan
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Thank you Mr. Curtis

A quick question

If you use chinese coins don't you think the audience will think they are fake or gimmicked?

What do you mostly use American or Chinese?


Thank you again Mr. Curtis

Brad
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It would be difficult to imagine a gimmicked coin that could accomplish what the coins do in the "Palms" series. Because of that, I doubt there's much suspicion of a gimmick. I freely admit that they're fake, not that anyone would know the difference, because the authenticity of the coins is not an issue. The only important aspect is that they are immeidately recognizable as different from the Silver dollars, and that they are.

My working coins are Morgan silver dollars. The Chinese coins are used only for contrast. (I sometimes do a three hour tablehopping shift with nothing more than three of these and a deck of cards.)

BTW, that's two questions.

In the future, you can go ahead and call me Curtis.
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Bradley Morgan
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Thanks Mr. Curtis

How many Chinese coins would i need to get for your series?

What is you favorite method for producing a Jumbo coin?

About the Mr thing, it is just a sign of respect for adults. That is the way i have been brought up.

Thank you so much for your time.
I can't wait to meet you one day.
How long have you lived in Hawaii?
I was up in Honolulu about five years ago.
Beautiful place, just loved it.
I know what you are going through living up there, Someone has to suffer for the art. Smile

Brad
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