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Thanks, I will be taking it off of youtube to keep it for magicians only. Thanks to my ropefriend (or is it ropefiend!) for helping me with the posting and offering his site (above).

Posted: Jan 4, 2009 5:43pm
It has been deleted from You Tube.
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Thanks for sharing this Pete! I'd been having some problems getting into PN easily from a single piece of rope; your video made it crystal clear. And a MUCH cleaner way to go into C&R (less fiddling needed).
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Glad to be of service. This is the move I've been using for AT LEAST 50 YEARS and only showed it a few times to magicians. Since I'm basically retired now, I thought I would share it here.
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Thanks Pete,

I've been using it for almost 50 years, since I saw it in Tarbell volume 2. I'm really surprised that it hasn't appeared in more books.

- David Bond

Posted: Jan 4, 2009 7:01pm
I should have added that it is only as a cut and restore in Tarbell. Professor's nightmare isn't in Tarbell.

- David Bond
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Thanks Mr. Biro

Very clear and natural move.

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Just so new readers can see the link without scrolling up again, its at Pete's Blog
http://petebiro.blogspot.com
or this can also be seen at:
http://stagetricks.com/biro/peterope.html
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Quote:
On 2009-01-04 21:20, magicians wrote:
Just so new readers can see the link without scrolling up again, its at Pete's Blog
http://petebiro.blogspot.com


WOW...very interesting photos

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50 years! Pete, you don't look a day over 50 years old.
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Very Nice Pete!
Thank You

By the way, Hop-Along-Pete, that I purchased from Magic Inc. eons ago (and it survived my flooded basement) is still alive and kickin!
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Posted: Jan 5, 2009 2:26am
David: I just dug out Tarbell 2 and see the move is much the same for the start... Harlan doesn't credit anyone though. I had not yet gotten any copies of the Tarbell course when the move was stumbled on fooling around with rope. I just never like the old 'bring up the loop' handling.
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Very nice Pete. When can we expect a complete book or video of all these gems?
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Pete, that was EXCELLENT!
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You can leave comments on the blog. Look under the video clip, by pressing "comments".

Posted: Jan 5, 2009 7:25am
This thread came about due to a discussion Pete and I had about the DC cut and restored method using a scissor to pick up the loop. I told Pete, I had a method for a similar pickup that didn't use a loop held in the hand. So, we compared methods.
see video:
http://stagetricks.com/professor/cr.html
He then posted his version he learned 50 years ago, which I love.
Mine was 31 years ago from my original lecture which includes the stretch subtlety. The method is available on PM request.

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On 2009-01-04 17:55, Trekdad wrote:
Thanks for sharing this Pete! I'd been having some problems getting into PN easily from a single piece of rope; your video made it crystal clear. And a MUCH cleaner way to go into C&R (less fiddling needed).

Here's Whit Haydn doing his professor's cut pickup move in a routine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUMOkWUM7yI
Slight difference on the moves. Very subtle way to get the sizes for PN.
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I wonder... is there a video clip of Slydini's get-ready for PN? I know that Fred Kaps used it.
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Pete, as Wylie Coyote would say, genius, pure genius...
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The move I use is from Tarbell, the Cut and Restored Turban, if I remember correctly.

Slydini's move was designed to eliminate the "sizing" of the ropes which both Pete's and the Turban move require--which could not actually work if the arrangement was the way the magician is asking the audience to believe it was.

I don't think even astute observers notice this discrepancy, however, and that this is a case where we are "running when not being chased."

Since Slydini's move, which I have used, is a little too "fussy" and requires you to "accidently" drop the rope and pick it up again, I opted for the Turban move.

I like Pete's move, though, and would prefer it to the Slydini move.
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Thanks Whit... I consider your Mongolian Pop Knot routine one of the best all time rope routines. Right up there with Jay Marshall's 2 slot key ring.

Posted: Jan 5, 2009 4:58pm
You know, thinking a bit more... I think from now on when anyone asks for advice, I'm going to say, "Look in Tarbell".
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Quote:
On 2009-01-05 07:25, magicians wrote:
This thread came about due to a discussion Pete and I had about the DC cut and restored method using a scissor to pick up the loop. I told Pete, I had a method for a similar pickup that didn't use a loop held in the hand. So, we compared methods.
see video:
http://stagetricks.com/professor/cr.html
He then posted his version he learned 50 years ago, which I love.
Mine was 31 years ago from my original lecture which includes the stretch subtlety. The method is available on PM request.


Thanks magicians for the material, I checked it out...I loved the stretch subtlety. Between Pete and you...thanks for sharing your knowledge with us...
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