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On 2009-01-07 09:52, Nosher wrote:
'Brother' Bruce Porteous is a little known god-walloper from New Zealand. He has been predicting various catastrophes about to befall the "Anglo-Saxon nations"(tm) for some time.

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Steve Mollet! Oh could we talk!! You are someone I can relate to.

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I hear you.

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Oh, and currently unemployed due to the most recent layoff.
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I admit it, I like it when the super rich are killed or jailed.....


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You break out the knitting needles, DeFarge, and I'll set up the guillotine.
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I'm unemployed too! Those ungrateful mutha.....oh wait, my company actually left the coast and did offer me a job but the manager who did was insulting so I told him to shove it I'd have another job in a week or so! That was Oct of 2006!
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Living entirely on gigs, or other 'ways & means' as well?
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On 2009-01-07 17:04, daffydoug wrote:
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On 2009-01-07 09:52, Nosher wrote:
'Brother' Bruce Porteous is a little known god-walloper from New Zealand. He has been predicting various catastrophes about to befall the "Anglo-Saxon nations"(tm) for some time.

The truth comes out!

Well, there is also a Bruce Porteous that works for Standard life Bank in Scotland and I immediately assumed it was him who wrote that and send an e-mail to an old colleague asking how someone with so much power and intelligence can write something so stupid. The reply was that it must have been another Bruce Porteous and obviously it was.
I take back what I said in my previous post.
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On 2009-01-07 21:56, MagicSanta wrote:
I'm unemployed too! Those ungrateful mutha.....oh wait, my company actually left the coast and did offer me a job but the manager who did was insulting so I told him to shove it I'd have another job in a week or so! That was Oct of 2006!


When I was a typesetter, graphic artist, the company (Artmold-The Action Line) got purchased by another promotional company (Norwood Promotions - *spit*) who told us our identity as an individual company was not in jeopardy! (Start printing out those resumes, guys!) Two years later, Artmold-The Action Line, a Norwood Company was Norwood-The Action Line and when our lease was up, we were told that all the equipment and contracts were being sent to Indiana! If we wanted to, we could apply for permission to move to Indiana if they felt they needed us! Like MagicSanta, I thought; "I'm a trained professional, I can get a job in six months!" 11 months later, on my last unemployment check, Wal*Mart asked me to join them for "the holiday season." I accepted and just recently received my five-year pin! *sigh*
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On 2009-01-07 17:40, MagicSanta wrote:
Steve Mollet! Oh could we talk!! You are someone I can relate to.

Magic Santa <---SPC, TQM, Six Sigma, APICS, Master of the LEAN method yet worked for a company that's idea of LEAN was not being straight up and down.


TQM god that takes me back quite a few years...
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"IOUSA, an excellent documentary on American debt, taxes, saving and spending. It projects the time until U.S. economic collapse, and explains what we need to do now, to avoid it. David Walker, Comptroller General of the USA, compares US to Rome."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0E-fwdyS-w&NR=1

Roger Ebert's review of the movie, IOUSA

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs....../reviews

Apparently CNN is showing the movie in full later this weekend. Check your listings.
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Has the U.S. ever had an economic setback which hasn't brought out the doom-and-gloomers?

At the age of 56, I've lived through too many of these cycles (admittedly the current one being a little scarier than many) to fall prey to this strain of end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it blather.

Fortunately, most of the hysteria whipped up in October by certain controlling people in Washington (again), and unquestioned (once again) by our now-spineless news media, seems to be easing. Maybe it's universal human nature, but the majority of Americans have more than demonstrated themselves over the last eight years to be gullible and easily spooked.

I say don't join the thundering herd. I can almost guarantee you'll end up regretting it.
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How long before someone here repeats the FOX "News" mantra:
"FDR and the New Deal Only Lengthened the Depression..."?
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I agree that the end of the world and biblical prophecy talk is unwarranted.

On the other hand, it seems a few people here keep insinuating that all is basically well and that the present financial crisis is just the latest worry of the week.

I'd remind them that this financial crisis story / worry of the week has been ongoing now for more than a year, and it has steadily been growing worse. Already worse than almost anyone (except a very few true contrarians) might have first imagined.

Incidentally, the I.O.U.S.A. movie I mentioned above is from last summer ... BEFORE the recent trillion plus dollar bailouts. Things certainly have not improved.

Anyone see the latest U.S. unemployment news?

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WASHINGTON (AFP) — US unemployment surged to a 16-year high of 7.2 percent as a deepening recession pushed employers to shed a massive 524,000 jobs in December, capping a yearly loss of 2.6 million, data showed Friday.

The job losses over the course of 2008 were the most in a year since 1945, the Labor Department said. Some 1.9 million were lost in the past four months alone as the credit crisis worsened.

The agency also revised up the number of job losses for the prior two months. The October figure was changed to show a loss of 423,000 jobs from 320,000 and November's data to a loss of 584,000 from 533,000.

The jobless rate, calculated on a separate household survey, climbed to 7.2 percent, the highest since January 1993, from 6.8 percent a month earlier.

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On 2009-01-11 17:38, gaddy wrote:
How long before someone here repeats the FOX "News" mantra:
"FDR and the New Deal Only Lengthened the Depression..."?


Oh let me, whether it is true or not.
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On 2009-01-11 17:20, marknem7 wrote:
but the majority of Americans have more than demonstrated themselves over the last eight years to be gullible and easily spooked.

Madoff comes to mind. Be careful who you trust.
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This situation has been coming for awhile. The situation was set up in the 80's so those thinking events in the last eight years is the big problem are naive. You have a combination of the oil industry causing all cost to go up a high percentage compared to what would have been expected w/out their help (note I predicted all the nonsense of the last year). Corporations are using this as an excuse to reduce their work force. Many industries are lost forever and now reside in China and India, thanks to the govt in the US in the 90s. Lastly the media loves this, they are hoping for soup lines and mass suicides. Bad sales and they, the media, are pushing the dooms day angle. It really has no choice but to turn around because people will eventually have to start buying consumer goods again. The economy is a big machine and think of it as different cogs working together and they all don't start grinding away at the same time, one will effect the other until the machine is working again. Listen, I've been out of work for over two years (except for one quarter where I worked for criminals) but I have faith things will come back, I'm hoping for soon, and they will.

Frankly I don't care about big investors who lost money with guys like Madoff. Remember, it takes a bit of larceny in the hearts of the victim before they call fall for the con. I, like most of you, just want to work, earn a living, and hopefully put some away so we don't starve while waiting to die of old age.
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The only thing that will prolong this slow grind is if the American people develop a long term memory.

Perhaps the new season of American Idle * will save them from their gaping existence . Smile

*intended.
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Dude, I forgot American Idol starts again soon!
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On 2009-01-11 22:48, kregg wrote:
The only thing that will prolong this slow grind is if the American people develop a long term memory.




I agree, we need to develop a, uh, look! something shiny.
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