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Steve Yarosko Loyal user 285 Posts |
I'm considering purchasing a flipper quarter from Schoolcraft. This will be my first flipper coin. On his website, he offers two versions for the same price. He offers an Eagle quarter which when open displays a head and tail. The second version is a state quarter which is double headed. Is there any reason I should purchase one over the other?
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
I don't think so... I would say they're just the same... except of course for the display heads/tails or heads/heads... but otherwise just the same.
I have a Morgan Dollar flipper from Jamie and I really like it! |
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jprace Inner circle 2209 Posts |
If you get one that displays two of the same side you will end up having a double sided coin when the Flipper is closed. That can be a problem. I recommend a normal Flipper with two different sides.
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2423 Posts |
I wouldn't qualify this a BIG problem (I don't say you did...) since when you perform using a flipper, the routine is usually such that people do not notice whether you have a double headed coin or not... they just notice you have two coins (or more). But it certainly is a point to consider.
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
I recommend a normal Flipper with two different sides!
-Morten- |
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Mr. Tango Elite user Argentina 465 Posts |
I recommend a normal flipper with both sides like a regular coin, more if it will be your first flipper.
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GeorgeG Special user Thousand Oaks, CA 977 Posts |
It is true an open flipper is meant to display two coins, irregardless of what face is showing, but once it is closed you can not be too casual with displaying the coin if it is double headed. I like my coins to look like real coins, irregardless, of gaffing, that is, showing a obverse and reverse side
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Steve Yarosko Loyal user 285 Posts |
Thanks for the info everyone. This forum is great. I'll get the normal flipper. It's comforting to know that I'm not making an uninformed decision.
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dsalley13 Elite user 465 Posts |
Steve,
Why are you starting with quarters? Half-dollars have a lot more visibility. I'm not putting quarters down or questioning the affordability that might be one of your concerns. I'm just wondering why you chose quarters. I wish my hands were big enough to use silver dollars (and poker-sized cards). That was my limitation, what would fit my hands. Also, as an entry level flipper, you might try a less expensive coin maker first to make sure coin work is comfortable for you. It can be a very big investment if you catch the coin bug. I just received some half-dollar Tango Pro Flippers. I'll review them later this week. Having had them only a day, all I can say is WOW! Mr. Tango makes some very nice coins. They are amazing! dsalley13 |
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts |
I use Walking Liberty half dollars and like this size very good.
Have a WL gravity flipper from Schoolcraft, and this is a amazing coin. -Morten- |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
Ever tried using a half dollar or a Liberty half sized regular flipper? It is an absolute PAIN! Gravity's all the way for those sizes.
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polygonsmagic Veteran user 372 Posts |
The double headed quater is nice since most of the quarters around now are the state ones. With the double headed flipper you do not have to worry about the state side matching
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Steve Yarosko Loyal user 285 Posts |
Dsalley13,
Thanks for your points. I look forward to your review of the Tango flipper. I have a couple reasons I was looking at the quarter. One reason I was thinking about a quarter was the fact that most people don't carry around half dollars or dollar coins anymore, so the quarter would be less suspected as a trick coin. I have a good friend who only does coin magic with quarters for this reason. The more driving reason was purely financial. I was given "reward dollars" from my day job in the form of a visa debit card. This card had $100.00 on it. Since I've drooled over the Lassen/Schoolcraft coins in reading the posts in this forum, I thought I'd spend the reward dollars on a top quality flipper coin. Upon further reflection, right now I'm leaning on getting a lower priced flipper and spend the extra money on instructional material. To be honest, part of the game has been to keep the purchase under $100.00 to fit the reward dollars I have earned. I have some specific ideas that I want to use the flipper for. If what I have in mind works, and if I think the routine warrants spending the required dollars for a more higher quality flipper, then I won't have any trouble spending my own cold hard cash for it. Thanks, Steve |
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krintz Regular user 135 Posts |
If I was performing in a professional atmosphere (and was actually a professional ), I might use the biggest coins I was comfortable with. Some hands are better with halves, some with dollars. I have huge hands, and still am not comfortable with Morgan dollars.
But in a small, intimate atmosphere, the flipper quarters are, in my opinion, the best way to go! I have a Schoolcraft regular quarter flipper, and, after reading this thread, I really want a double-headed new quarter flipper, too. Why? First, Polygonsmagic is right on. The heads are all the same on the new quarters. And, second, the stuff I do always involves 3 quarters.... tossing them back and forth between hands. A two-headed quarter in this circumstance would never be detected. Just a couple of flippers in your pocket, one old and one new, and you're ready to handle any situation, with borrowed coins! Krintz |
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts |
Most people don't carry silks, packs of cards, sponge balls, sponge bunnies, sponge stars, card packets, rubber bands etc...either. For some reason crazy magicians keep pulling these things from their pockets and entertaining. Not sure why so many people think that everything they do has to be "everyday items". It's hard to spin a story around a modern quarter but very easy to spin a story around a walking liberty half dollar. Be creative...do a little research...entertain!
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krintz Regular user 135 Posts |
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On 2009-01-23 02:56, John Bowlin wrote: Well, I, for one, certainly don't think EVERYTHING has to be an 'everyday item', and I don't know anybody who thinks it has to be. But, if I were in a bar, and I pulled out some foam bunnies to impress the ladies... well, let's just say, "Mission Accomplished!" - not I will admit, when I can afford a custom-made Olympic Gold Medal flipper/shell UWC set, I'll have it made. I've already got some of the patter: "When I won the bronze, I protested... it became silver. But I insisted, they resisted, I persisted... there was no denying me. (Presents the gold) I won! (Damn... as I look this over, it's actually a cool idea... "Olympic Bronze/Silver/Gold") But, for now, I'll stick with the flipper quarters KRINTZ |
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narcoleptic_insomniac Regular user Kenosha, WI 140 Posts |
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On 2009-01-22 16:23, Steve Yarosko wrote: This was going to be exactly my advice to you ^_^ (Take it with a grain of salt, though, as I have never owned any coins by JS... yet.) I believe that, in the long run, you will be much better off having purchased a "cheaper" flipper and the appropriate DVDs, rather than going all out and getting a JS flipper immediately (of a quarter, nonetheless). This is equivalent to a 15-year-old buying a new Ferrari instead of used beater and drivers ed lessons ^_^ BTW, this reminded me a previous thread in which Eric Jones said: Quote:
On 2007-07-26 19:35, Eric Jones wrote: In any case, even if you don't go with Johnson nor a half dollar, just think about it for a bit (if you haven't ordered already, that is ^_^). Good Luck, Kyle |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
I owned Flipper coins by most well known American makers and some European ones. The quallity differential is really big: do you perform with nickel half dollars r silver half dollars? Jaimie is producing extremely good high end products.
If you do a double sided coin routine or if you perform standing where the coin side is irrelevant take a double header, If you perform at dinner tables where people are really close take a head and tail coin: Now there are other considerations with Jaimie's production. He makes Dean Dill coins which are somehow remilled and it's easier to find a [ that fits over the flipper; AND the Dean Dill [ fully covers the edge of the coin. Thus if you work at tables right under the spectators' nose: choose the Dean Dill set of coins.
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kcquinn50 Loyal user 230 Posts |
There was a Schoolcraft Morgan Dollar flipper on eBay. Buy it now for $125.
It didn't last long. The same seller had a Morgan expanded [ set for $175. It too went fast. This seller may have other Schoolcraft items. http://cgi.ebay.com/Coin-Magic-Schoolcra......0%3A1318
Kelvin
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Doc Magic Regular user Pasadena, CA 151 Posts |
Recently bought my first Schoolcraft flipper half, and finally realized I've been wasting my money on other products until now.
"Experience is not what happens to you; it is what you do with what happens to you."- Aldous Huxley
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