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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2009-01-26 14:49, MagicSanta wrote: If so, then, according to Newton's Third Law of Motion, new military jets will be affected by joggers. Instead of one new documentary, you get two: twice as many new film students have gainful employment. |
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brandonford1982 Veteran user 304 Posts |
Thank You Mark for your words. They pretty much sum it for all.... I am simply a photojournalist who is doing his job for the loave of art and magic.......
Thanks Brandon |
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Sorry, I'm committed to Nicks project.
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RicHeka Inner circle 3999 Posts |
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On 2009-01-26 21:00, brandonford1982 wrote: 'Loave' of art and magic? Does that mean you are doing it for the 'bread'? Sorry,I couldn't resist. |
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ladirector Regular user 128 Posts |
Brandon, perhaps you familiar with a book called "Magicians Brush with the Cinema" which was similar to your idea, long before the digital age.
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brandonford1982 Veteran user 304 Posts |
Ladirector,
Im not familiar, I will have to look it up....... Thank you |
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Bad to the Balloon Inner circle Clearwater Florida 2116 Posts |
I am sure magician's have the same thoughts and conversations when film came out. Death of Vaudeville ring a bell?
Sometime Brandon types faster than he thinks
Mark Byrne
AKA Mark the Balloon Guy As seen on the TODAY SHOW www.balloonguy.net Creator of Bad to the Balloon DVD series Go to my store: http://tinyurl.com/Bad2theBalloon |
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Natanel Special user 739 Posts |
I have no issue with a bit of sensationalism and camp - we're in show business after all (and I must admit as a heavy metal fan, I'm a sucker for posters with tombstones and Gothic lettering). I look forward to doing an interview with Brandon and I think he has the makings of a very interesting project.
People who work for Theory 11: Do you want a young guy without a stupid gelled haircut or eurotrash jeans for your videos? PM me.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Hey Brandon, just a tip, the people who want to be interviewed are typically NOT the ones you want to interview. I'm serious, forget those guys. Pick out certain people you want to approach and ask them to participate. If you go the route you are taking and letting volunteers take part change the name to 'Drool'.
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brandonford1982 Veteran user 304 Posts |
Ok We have begun conducting the interviews so bear with me as I will get to each of you.
Thanks Brandon |
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brandonford1982 Veteran user 304 Posts |
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to take a moment and let you know that my Documentary "Death of The Magician" is coming along quite nicely. We have completed 5 interviews so far and have over a dozen scheduled with multiple more coming up soon. We have some pretty well known names in the magic community involved and I am happy of the overall look of the film so far. If you have not taken a look, check out the site: www. deathofthemagician. com The only item we have up right now is the poster since we only begun production in January. We hope to have some pics, and other information up soon. I had such an overwhelming amount of people wanting to be involved, I compiled a list of people who want to be involved so If you have not heard from me, shoot me an email or a PM and we will setup a time to talk. Also if you have access to good quality camera mic, and videographer, I can send you the questions to answer and you can shoot yourself and mail to me. This would help in the case doing a SKYPE interview would not work for us and coming to you would not be an option...... Thanks again for all of your continued support on this project. So far EVERYTHING has been nothing but positive responses for magic and I am proud to say that. Brandon |
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Paul Budd Elite user It's a shame he's only made 435 Posts |
Brandon,
I don't know you. Maybe you're a nice guy. Maybe you're a smart guy. I happen to be both, quite frankly. I love magic. Without so much as a shred of sarcasm, may I make a suggestion to you? Please look up (with an open mind) a good definition of the term "scandel mongering". Do you know why I loathe Katie Couric? Because she's a scandel mongerer. She can take Mrs. Jones buying a loaf of bread and turn it into the scandal of the decade. From what I've read so far (and I've read your posts here very carefully)....I am deeply bothered by the spirit of what it is you're trying to do. With (apparently) very little credible data, you've already determined that "magic is dying"......rubbish, I say. Magic is alive and well. Please consider carefully your motivation here, sir.
His face isn't really this long in-person!
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
Paul, you said you were both nice and smart, you forgot to mention adorable as well.
I'm still trying to figure out why live performance would be affected by a digital world. I would think people would want to see live performance because they know it isn't done with 'tv tricks'. |
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Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
This would seem to be great fodder for a new chapter if Max ever decides to update his "Protocols" book...
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mantel Special user 922 Posts |
Shhh... No one tell Marco Tempest.
Regards, Mantel |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I see a basic flaw in the premise. There is not now and never will be a "completely digital world." The world, by its very nature, is analog. You may receive your television signals via a digital cable, but the picture on the screen is actually an analog interpretation of a digital signal. The same is true of the screen of your computer. Our eyes are analog.
You can't hear digital sound. Speakers are analog. So are headphones. Your ears are analog. I'd like to know what a "completely digital world" is supposed to mean. Does it mean a world in which everyone has access to computers and the internet? If so, there is still a very large percentage of the world that does not have this. This whole project is nothing more than a pile of scare tactic rubbish.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
By far the two most salient posts in this thread are the last one by Bill Palmer and the earlier one which suggested that the people most eager to participate in such a project are very probably the very ones who should not.
'Nuff said.
Dick Christian
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I was interested in giving my opposing view in an interview; however, the more I think about this, the less I want to do it.
During the 1930's, EVERYONE read the newspaper. Camel cigarettes ran some ad/cartoons in the Sunday papers that exposed how some large illusions worked. Did it kill magic? NO! During the 1960's, there were magazines sold on newsracks that showed how to build your own magic tricks? Did this kill magic? NO. During the 1990's and even now, the masked magician went on Fox and exposed some of our illusions and even some of our close-up magic. Did this kill magic? NO. If you are a decent magician, you can take the very same tricks an exposer does and fool the pants off anyone who has seen the exposure shows. You just have to understand magic and people. The main problem I see with this "digital world" is that there is a new generation of magicians who have learned exclusively from Ellusionist and other download sites, or from DVD's that contain badly explained material. I've reviewed some of these for MUM. So we have children "playing" at magic. They think they are fooling people. Most of them are only fooling themselves. I saw a certain amount of remediation of this at the WMS last week. Jeff McBride, Eugene Burger and other wise men of magic are busy teaching the youngsters (as well as any of us old f**ts who are willing to listen) how to be effective magicians by thinking about magic in, well, a magical way. By restoring the mystery to magic, the performer actually can overcome the problems of the digital knockoffs. I'm putting my money on mystery and analog and leaving the digital magicmonkeys to play with their childish games. However, I think it would behoove all of us to learn how to manipulate this resource. Jeff and Eugene are doing this. More power to them.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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mrmagician Regular user 124 Posts |
At one performance pre-1950, Dunninger came out and showed the audience how to do some tricks. He brushed them off as beginner, kiddie tricks. Then he explained to the audience that they came to see a real performance of Mentalism. He used every "trick" that he exposed at the beginning and fooled the pants off of them.
Magic happens in the "mind" of the beholder. It is very rarely just the well hidden secret that baffles the good folk. I say good folk, because there are jerks out there that scream out hypothesis',"I saw that on the masked magician", I used to be a magician and this is how it is done...", "You are using four balls with those metal cups (for you Bill)." Being able to work around those parameters determines whether you are a novice or a pro. There are different directions you can go through improvisation. This is where experience and magic knowledge = power. There are tricks that we "expose" intentionally while performing. Those are called Sucker Tricks. They are typically goofy explanations of how a trick is done. Then you fool the pants off of them. Well, some times you fool the pants off of them. I am not a believer or supporter of real "secret" exposure - for any reason. (Well, maybe it is ok if someone has a gun to your head, or the targeted magician is your x-wife.) I think it cheapens our art, especially when one of our brothers does it. The only thing that seperates Magic and Ventriloquism from other arts are the "Secrets". That is why our Secrets should stay within and cherished. Some folks pay big bucks for those secrets. If I were to choose between the two, Does "Secret" exposure hurt or help Magic, I would have to say it hurts it. Those that do not think secret exposure hurts magic, give me your phone number and I will call your young child one week before Christmas and tell him there is no Santa Claus. A magician's job is to entertain and suspend disbelief. We do not do that at the expense of another brother magician. With all of this said, I do not think exposure is killing magic, I think it just hurts it. A little time usually heals all wounds (and exposed secrets). Garry Hayes A nudist colony called me last week to book a show. I said "No Way..... I am not exposing any of my secrets." |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Garry:
I agree with you completely. Exposure won't kill magic. It will hurt it, but mainly for the weaker performers. Although, I must admit that once in a while there is an idiot spectator who assumes that the method HE knows for something is the ONLY method, and he decides that is what you are using. I don't know if you are familiar with the Scotty York Light Bulb. I was using it at a performance one afternoon, and an idiot proceeded to explain to all her friends that it was a thing called an "Atomic Lamp," and that I lit it up by shorting it with my ring. Even though it was fully lit without being near a single piece of metal, as far as she was concerned, it was still an atomic lamp. SHEEESH! She was what real clowns refer to as a "painted face." They look like clowns on the outside, but they are empty of talent on the inside. On the other hand, right after the first MM exposure on Fox, I was performing for Roadway trucking. I was setting up my show, and one of their dispatchers sat right next to the stage, proclaiming, "I know how all this stuff works! I saw that Masked Magician guy last night." Instead of letting him spoil the show for everyone, as I set the show up, I said, "I saw that show, too. It was kind of funny. Do you think ANY self-respecting magician would use a fork lift to do a levitation? That's pretty cheesy. He didn't tip any of the real methods, you know." He thought about it for a minute and said, "Yeah, you're right. None of that stuff could have worked like that." And I fooled him with the linking rings, as well as a couple of other items that were exposed on the show. Admittedly, having a locking k*y ring didn't hurt!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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