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Yes, the van was new. but when hurley drove it the van was old.
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Back in the 1970s / 1980s, there were several blue DHARMA vans on the island. At least 3 of them. I think they showed them in the episode where it showed Ben's childhood, and in another episode.

There's a photo on this page that shows multiple vans.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/DHARMA_van

So, the van that Hurley found / drove in a couple of episodes might not be the exact same one as Jin is driving.

BTW, I kept typing Dharma. But it should all be upper case, because it is an acronym.

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Acronym for what?
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Hi Kevin -

I didn't know it was an acronym until I read this LOST wiki page a week or two ago.

The "DHARMA" in the name "DHARMA Initiative" stands for Department of Heuristics And Research on Material Applications.

They probably told us in an episode, and I missed it.

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P.S. Good post, too, Gaddy.
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On 2009-01-29 14:35, kcg5 wrote:
Does anyone remember the episode when richard goes to see john as a baby? He asks john to pick one or two objects? (one of the ways they select the Dalai Lama) Does john pick the compass that richard gave him recently?


I don't know about the Dali Lama (Although I did see a similar sequence in of all things "King of the Hill." But I remember the opening of "Lone Wolf and Cub" where the disgraced samari makes his baby son choose between a toy and a sword intending only to take him (and let him live) if he chooses the weapon.
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I just re-watched last night's episode ("316") again.

Questions I have about last night's episode:

What was in Hurley's guitar case?

I wanted to know where Aaron was. (I wondered if Kate left Aaron with Claire's mom.) And why was Kate acting so loopy, but Jack just accepting it?

Also, what did Ben do, to get all of those people on the plane at the same time, and co-ordinate Frank as the pilot?

What happened to Ben (how did he get beat up)?

Did you notice that Ben quipped that his mom taught him to read (When Jack asked him on the place, "How can you read?")? However, he was obviously saying that as only a joke, and/or lying once again. Because his mom died during his birth.

Also, there was two other passengers in the first class section. There was a guy who talked with Jack in the airport (said condolences about the loss of his friend... referring to Jeremy Bentham / John Locke, who Jack just made arrangements for to take his body on the flight). They showed him a bit... so I wonder if we will find out more about him. He was wearing a leather bomber jacket. Also, there was a female security guard / sherriff sitting beside Sayid. But they didn't show her quite as much.

Did you notice the parallels to the first flight? Jack is taking John's body, instead of his Dad's. Sayid is a prisoner, instead of Kate.

I thought the mention of doubting Thomas (the apostle), and then later the note from Locke ("I wish you had believed") had a nice link.

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Frank as the pilot was a weak point for me. He just buys into the idea? "ok, we are gonna crash again on that island."???

I forgot bens mom had died.

why is sayid being taken to guam as a prisoner? what did he do? it seemed like all his killings were done in different places, but not guam.


If some old lady explained that whole thing to me the way she did, I don't know how id react, but it would have been a lot different than they did...
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On 2009-02-20 01:51, Donald Dunphy wrote:
I just re-watched last night's episode ("316") again.


A reference on John 3:16?

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Questions I have about last night's episode:

What was in Hurley's guitar case?


Charlie’s guitar, as in was in the first flight.

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What happened to Ben (how did he get beat up)?


He was at a marina, was there a confrontation with Desmond and Penny?

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Did you notice the parallels to the first flight? Jack is taking John's body, instead of his Dad's. Sayid is a prisoner, instead of Kate.


Kate looking shady under the glasses instead of Sawyer.

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I thought the mention of doubting Thomas (the apostle), and then later the note from Locke ("I wish you had believed") had a nice link.


There must be key scene when John confronts Jack that explains this. Did Jack doubt John as Doubting Thomas did? No one remembers Thomas for the brave man he was but for this one incident. Is that how we will remember Jack?

Getting back to John 3:16, John seems to be a Jesus like figure who sacrificed himself so others would not perish--those who believe in him.
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"316" is the flight number on Ajira Air, from the show.

(However, it is also a reference to John 3:16, which is an Easter Egg hidden in a website. BTW, there is an Ajira Airways website that is part of the online LOST game... I found it a while ago, from links on LOST sites. If you type the right code into the flight box, you get access to bonus pages. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ajira_Airways )

And yes, Jack did doubt John in several episodes (end of season 3, start of season 4)... they've also had arguements about faith vs. science in several episodes. Faith / belief is an overall theme for the series. Jack represents "scientific explanation" whereas Locke represents "faith".

How could it be Charlie's guitar? Wouldn't Charlie's guitar already be on the island from before?

We also know that Jack needs to get back to that island. He was breaking down / abusing drugs, etc., before he realized he needed to get back. So, he's pretty much ready to do anything to get his "fix" (which is now the island).

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On 2009-02-20 10:14, Donald Dunphy wrote:

How could it be Charlie's guitar? Wouldn't Charlie's guitar already be on the island from before?

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Charlie came to visit Hurley, although we are made to believe it was just his imagination, mabye it was really him. Anything is possible when time travel is involved. Perhaps Charlie was the one who finally convinced Hurley to go on the plane, and he gave him his guitar to prove he was real.
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Yeah, I heard that theory somewhere. It's possible.

Personally I came up with the crazy theory that the guitar case is full of Apollo bars. Smile

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Apollo_Bar

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First off, excuse the double post. But then again, it has been 6 days.

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What happened to Ben (how did he get beat up)?


He was at a marina, was there a confrontation with Desmond and Penny?


Ken, before the new episode ("The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"), which aired last night, they had last week's episode ("316") but with pop-ups. In a popup on the episode "316" they suggested that Ben had done something to Penny (kept his promise to Widmore about killing her, because Widmore arranged for Ben's "daughter" to die). Ben did say something about keeping his promise. And he was calling from a phone at a marina.

So, you might be right.

Also, in the popup episode of "316", they talked about the magician's trick "Fraidy Kat Rabbit" and who invented it, etc. as a seguay to talk about other things in the series like the episode "White Rabbit" (reference to Alice in Wonderland). Again, this info was in the popup, not actually spoken.

BTW, the reference lamp-post (the DHARMA station) is a reference to the Chronicles of Narnia, and the lamp-post the children find in Narnia. And with the Oceanic 6 returning to the island, it was a reference specifically to Prince Caspian, where the children are pulled back into Narnia magically.

Also, good episode last night ("The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham"). I also read the recap of last night's episode online at ABC, which helped to clarify a few things. The Ajira Airways jet has crash landed on the Hydra Island (that's the one that the Others were on), not the main island.

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So why did Lupidis (sp), the captain of the plane take a boat with another woman? who was she? where did they go?
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I suspect that the lady was Sun, and Frank was taking her back to the main island (so she could be with Jin).

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Does anyone know for sure whether or not there is an episode of Lost airing this evening? I've seen conflicting information about that being reported.
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According to ABC's site, it's on tonight.

However, on A-Channel (in Victoria, BC, Canada), it is airing at a different time from normal (earlier). 7 pm instead of 9 pm.

If you miss the episodes they are online (Canadians watch online at A-Channel's site, Americans on ABC's site).

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Thanks. Looks like I might have missed it already. Oh well, I have zero doubt that I'll find the episode uploaded to the web somewhere within a few hours.
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It should be on abc's site
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Next episode is in 2 weeks? What's up with that?
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It should be on abc's site

That only works for viewers within the U.S. ... no matter, I've found it on-line elsewhere.
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