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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts 
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On 2009-02-07 01:30, doug brewer wrote: What did you mean about this? Is the "different" kinds of Sun/moon coins also? On the COINvention DVD Roger Klaus don't say anything about some "variation" on the gaff. Maybe I have the correct gaff  , the Klause's routine works nice for me.
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taller8 Inner circle Olympia, Washington 1087 Posts
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I've always heard the Klause version requires a reversed Sun/Moon. Meaning a Silver shell over a c/s coin.
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts
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On 2009-02-07 17:27, taller8 wrote: Wrong, he use a copper S/M coin, not a reversed s/m with silver s**ll. -Morten- |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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I'm sure there at zillions of variations, but in Goshaman's hands the Sun and Moon was a thing of beauty.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2009-02-07 17:27, taller8 wrote: ?? it's in Kaufman's Almanac page 150 or there abouts - uses a regular sun/moon or blasted! coin.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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rutabaga Inner circle Toronto, Canada 1283 Posts
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There is indeed a variation required on the gaff in the Klause routine.
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allen_m Veteran user Alpine, TX 349 Posts
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On 2009-02-13 00:49, rutabaga wrote: Yup- Nice routine- I've been working on it and a standard s/m gaff won't suffice for one important reason... p.m. for ???'s... -A |
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magicator Loyal user 201 Posts
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On 2009-02-12 22:37, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Personally, I like to use a copper coin to represent the sun as it has more of a 'warm' feel than a silver coin. Therefore, I do Roger's routine with a 'reversed' Sun/Moon, again simply because I prefer to represent the sun with copper and moon with silver. Roger uses silver for sun and copper for moon and this is indeed the 'regular' sun/moon. |
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allen_m Veteran user Alpine, TX 349 Posts
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On 2009-02-13 13:10, magicator wrote: There IS another difference between a standard JOHNSON or similar sun/moon that precludes it's use for this routine... Regardless of which coin is depicted as the sun or as the moon... Specifically relating to how the gaff is manufactured... |
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doug brewer V.I.P. 1142 Posts
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I would like to throw out a nice routine by the late Barry Price called Sun,Moon & Beyond. This is in his Escamotage 1 booklet, and is very good. Kind of a melding of the Klause routine, with the Kaps routine and with Barry's own touches. The ending is very reminescent of the Theory 11/Steve Dusheck trick coin effect (can't remember the name) but just uses the sun/moon.
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mballen11502 Loyal user Memphis, TN 202 Posts
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So what is the variation on the gaff needed to perform Roger's routine? I have a video of him performing and teaching the routine and he never mentions anything special about the gaffus.
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doug brewer V.I.P. 1142 Posts
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A "normal" sun/moon the EP she** is non-expanded - it's the insert that is shaved down. In the Klause routine, the EP she** needs to fit over a normal half dollar completely, so it needs to be expanded. The insert, therefore, is not shaved down and looks more like a normal sized c/s. That is the variation we are dancing around. It's basically the same gaffus, but the Klause version allows a cleaner show of only two coins because the EP she** is nested over the half dollar at one point.
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MortenN Veteran user Norway 338 Posts
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On 2009-02-15 23:54, doug brewer wrote: I use a "normal" sun moon coin from Lassen and a Lassen shaved remilled silver coin in sted of a expanded sh**l and a normal silver coin. This give the same result. -Morten- |
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feher Inner circle Michigan 1421 Posts
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I'm a fan of Milt Kort's "Protean Coin" but all this talk about Goshman's routine now I have to go find it and see for myself. I have goshmans close up book but it doesn't have his routine in it that you all are talking about.
Tim
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samslaven New user I only have... 28 Posts
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SAMOYA by Rob Thompson is by far the best! He's selling it on DVD now.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts
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I second this: Samoya is a very accomplished routine presented by Rob Thompson in a very slick performance.
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taller8 Inner circle Olympia, Washington 1087 Posts
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Can Samoya be done with just one set of SunMoon coins? Shell/CS/Shaved Morgan
I just received the Dollar size Lassen set and it's just fantastic. The copper coin, (shell) when mounted on the C/S can be flipped in the air due to the size of the coin, and the meticulous construction. The thickness of the copper/silver in the dollar size has minimal size variation, so I always recommend getting the dollar size Sun Moon set if you can. And the fact that you also receive a shaved down Morgan dollar with the set makes this one of the best values in Coin gaffs in my humble opinion. |
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts
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I have the Penny looking half dollar size Todd Lassen Sun and Moon and it is also of very fine quality but I never tried tossing it up as it is not required by my Sun and Moon routine and I don't have a shaved silver half dollar to go with it.
Thanks for your report on the Dollar size set.
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MagicByUriel Veteran user Johnathan Townsend has a lot more than 358 Posts
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I just got Apocalypse Vol.6-10 and was wondering if their are any routines in there that require a sun and moon coin?
"Magic is the only art that the audience wants the performer to screw up" - Daniel Garcia
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts
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On 2009-05-04 19:34, MagicByUriel wrote: No there are not. Plenty of Spellbound moves, plenty of coins across with or without [ , some smart ideas for the Hoo-coin, several routines using one or more C/S coins but no Sun and Moon coin. This means that you could recheck these to see what you could do using your S&M coin and get creative. Your S&M coin can bring some of these Spellbound ideas way further.
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