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I saw Brad Christian (Ellusion) do some effects with a loop on his DVD. The effects are great, but is the thread really that hard to see? (Obviously I've never had the chance to see a loop firsthand).

I'm interesting in learning some thread effects, but I'm worried that some (or many) can see something that's just a foot or two in front of their face.
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Performance conditions with regard to lighting and background design are important factors to consider. Ron Jaxon (cafe member extraordinaire) has an excellent video file demonstrating this, and he is a treasure chest of information on the subject.

Best of luck!
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Under direct lighting (light immediately overhead) and extremely bright direct sunlight the loop can be visible. I've found ways of using body position to shadow when working under immediate overhead lights. Sunlight just takes a bit of experimentation. Sometimes conditions just dictate, "don't use it."

Distance is also a factor. Most who can see the loop will be fairly close to you, probably within 6-8 feet. The farther away the are the more invisible the loop even under fairly well lite conditions.

When lighting is indirect and you are not in sunlight, it is pretty much invisible even within a few inches. This, of course, depends on the type of material the loop is made from.
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With PK work where there is fast movement of an object, I see very little possibility of seeing anything.
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They are very hard to see
if you use them right.
It takes practice, like all
in Magic and other skills.

I use my Daughter to test my tricks.
She is 5 1/2 and sees all. When I can
fool her all is good. Problem is she
looks at my gear when I'm not around
and figures things out...

Oh, that was good, Daddy,
but I think you used a "finger"...
Lol. High hopes for her!

I was only busted once using IT
(and not by my daughter) when I first
started using it long ago.
It is as Magic as You
are or want to be.

You really gotta practice and experiment.
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