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Tom Jorgenson![]() Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4452 Posts ![]() |
2/6: Abbey somebody just got national coverage for his escape from a roller coaster in Florida.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
I found a news link: http://cbs4.com/local/Avi.Frier.Magic.2.927586.html
Avi Frier Was Blindfolded, Shackled & Wearing A Straightjacket On Dania Beach Hurricane Roller Coaster He Had Less Than 2 Minutes To Escape
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
And his website: http://www.avimagic.com
Ok, it was very entertaining and more than I would be willing to take on. Of course there is a lot of stuff out there that is more than I am willing to take on. But, can we really call this an escape?
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
And finally, the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3HiByxaflA&eurl
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Harley Newman![]() Inner circle 5115 Posts ![]() |
I didn't see anything death-defying, but it was a nice piece! Good for him!
“You can’t depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus” -Mark Twain
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Moxahalla![]() Special user Los Angeles 748 Posts ![]() |
Oh, I liked that!
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
It was very entertaining. I liked the effect.
I don't mean to insult the guy. It was darn impressive. I just don't know that we can really call it an escape.
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magicofCurtis![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts ![]() |
Sorry, IMpressed? I thought it lacked thrill. However, it did bring in the press which is GREAT, but even the newscaster blurbed out the secret.....
I don't like escapes that involve MAGIC so to speak...
Curtis Lovell II
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Moxahalla![]() Special user Los Angeles 748 Posts ![]() |
How about if the performer never re-appeared afterwards?.
Just having the EMPTY coaster car pull into the station is creepy & startling enough. Might there be more media buzz if he didn't reappear? I bet it would create more media buzz about where is he? did he fall off? how did he disappear?, where the $#% is he!??? But perhaps the reappearance of the performer was NEEDED to take the 'heat' off of the coaster cars, and why a hood was required..if you know what I mean. Anyway, I liked it. |
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
There had to be a reappearance. Without it the thought would be "He made it out of the jacket but at some point fell."
He may have been alive and well on the morning news show the next day but the urban legend of the magician the fell to his death would live on. After all, Houdini died in the water torture cell. See what I mean? Great illusion though.
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magicofCurtis![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts ![]() |
Urban legend would have been kicked butt!
Curtis Lovell II
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts ![]() |
So would the law.
Pulling off a 'did he die' hoax would have resulted in an SAR effort around the coaster. If he showed up later, alive and well, with evidence of a hoax, he would have faced charges for spurring an unnecessary SAR effort.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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magicofCurtis![]() Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts ![]() |
Steve,
Unless you plan it. Get actors to act as law enforcement. Have the amusement park play along with this. IF someone does call 911. The fault would not fall on you. Since it is a productions/show.
Curtis Lovell II
http://www.CurtisLovell.com http://www.MagicofCurtis.com www.facebook.com/curtislovellii Los Angeles, California - U.S.A. |
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts ![]() |
In which case, it's not a total hoax; just a mild 'sting' on the audience at large.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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CARNEGIE![]() Loyal user 267 Posts ![]() |
In my opinion what he did was an Illusion, not an escape. And as Harley pointed out, not death defying either. I always wonder why magicians want to take escapes and turn them into a vanish/reappearance instead of doing the actual escape. It's something that I write about in The Escape Biz Volume 2. In fact, I see nothing wrong with saying "I'm going to do an incredible Illusion in a Roller Coaster" and put all the emphasis on the 'illusion. For example, "I'm going to attempt to VANISH from a Moving Roller Coaster. To make it more difficult, I'm going to be chained inside the car." The emphasis is on dissappearing, the effect is clearly defined.
In regards to Roller Coaster Escapes here is a little history. Steve Baker presented the first Roller Coaster Escape chained to the tracks on TV in the 1970s. Dan Stapleton did a Roller Coaster escape from the tracks in the 80s. David Deval did a Roller Coaster escape by being handcuffed inside one of the cars of the coaster. A few years ago David Straightjacket recreated that escape. Lance Burton did a Roller Coaster Escape in the 1990s. Recently, Dean Gunnerson did a cool Roller Coaster Escape chained to the tracks in China. |
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avimagic![]() Loyal user Hollywood, Florida 235 Posts ![]() |
Someone just sent me a link to this discussion, and I was a little flattered that I attracted the attention of my colleagues---All I was really after was the local media!
![]() As for the question of "escape" vs. "illusion" I myself referred to it as an illusion in the interview. Initially, I contacted the press using language I thought they'd understand without revealing everything I was planning to do. I told them it would be an escape attempt with a death-defying surprise twist. The surprise twist was, of course, that the car came back completely empty (as opposed to just having me there out of the restraints); as for the death-defying part, well, I figured that any exit from a moving roller coaster could pretty much be classified as death-defying. I've been thrilled at the public response I've gotten so far, but I was really unhappy that the news anchors chose to banter about the secret, especially in light of a memo that each media person at the event was handed. There was a section on exposure that read: Quote:
A NOTE ON “EXPOSURE” I didn't really expect them to pay attention to the 'off the record' part, but I hoped that my movie review analogy would appeal to their sense of ethics. Anyway, thanks again for having this discussion. I will have a video of the full performance available soon and will make it available to any magicians who would like a copy. |
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avimagic![]() Loyal user Hollywood, Florida 235 Posts ![]() |
One more thing: regarding the possibility of having the car come back empty without a reappearance...
The roller coaster agreed to the stunt because they saw the potential of getting some decent P.R. for themselves. I think such an ending would have had the opposite effect. Great idea, though! |
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Tony Miller![]() Regular user 138 Posts ![]() |
Hi there Avi!
It was an impressive video to see. "I myself referred to it as an illusion in the interview." I noticed that. There's no stopping the media though.
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avimagic![]() Loyal user Hollywood, Florida 235 Posts ![]() |
Thanks! It's true, the media will always report things the way they see them, even when they're wrong.
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basic_mystifier![]() New user 51 Posts ![]() |
Good Video.
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