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Lou Hilario Inner circle 2235 Posts |
I am rebuilding my Mismade Lady illusion and I would like to ask your advice on the most deceptive base for this. I will need about 7 inches depth. I would like to make the base a maximum of about 3 feet wide on all sides if possible.
I will be using this mostly for stages that are from 2 to 4 feet in height. What would you recommend? 1. Bevelled Base 2. Multi-Level or Step Style Base 3. Combination of 1 & 2. Or perhaps you could show me a base similar to other popular illusions. Thanks in advance!
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
Lou I actually like the Combo base!
Jack
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Christopher Starr Inner circle Heart of America 1850 Posts |
Lou:
The most common style that I've seen over the years is a step style. While the bevel style has been (over) used, I don't see a need for it on this illusion. Here's a clip of Doug Henning's broadway performance of it, still using the classic "Owen" style base: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBdWWA_mN-8 Chris |
Chris Stolz Inner circle Mississauga, Ontario 1958 Posts |
2 or 3.
A beveled base doesn't work so well in such a small sized prop.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Back in the 70s, I built it according to the Osborne plans with a HUGE beveled base. After having to transport it a couple of times, I stored it in the attic. I'm not sure why I never just rebuilt the base, but I was in late high school and college, so I probably just didn't have the time.
Refer to the Henning video for what I think is the best solution...
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
If you look closely at Doug's prop. you will see an "under-bevel".
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M-Illusion Special user 549 Posts |
One of my Mismade illusions had a double bevel and it just did not look good. Given the small size of the base, I don't think you would gain much useful space with a deceptive bevel.
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Rich Hill Regular user Nashville, Indiana USA 166 Posts |
Definitely a step base on this one, with a bowed or slightly beveled underbelly. Good Call, Jack and Chris and Christopher!
Did you guys ever see the Ringling BRos circus back in the 80s when they were using this huge bevel base for a clown-car type production? The dang thing looked like a spaceship! Anyway, my 2 cents is to use bevelling very very sparingly.
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illusionman2 Special user 991 Posts |
Yes go with the step base. I made mine with a bevel base and it looked like crap.
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Thomas Wayne Inner circle Alaska 1977 Posts |
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On 2009-02-09 11:00, Jack Murray wrote: You beat me to it, Jack. What makes this aspect so deceptive is the proximity of the base to the floor (short legs). Almost any theatrical lighting will make all of the base below the bottom metal band "die" into the shadow under the prop. It's a seriously underused technique (pun intended). TW
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
Quote: On 2009-02-09 15:07, Thomas Wayne wrote:
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Lou Hilario Inner circle 2235 Posts |
Thank you Christopher, Jack, Chris, Clinton, M-Illusion, James and Thomas for your expert advice and opinions.
My initial plan is to make a step base with an underbelly. Gathering from the responses, it has my confirmed my plans. I'll post a sketch with measurements for your approval.
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David Garrity Special user 525 Posts |
Lou,
Another option would be to build it on a long 'dolly' instead of a base. Something that looks like this: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4ZZ61 It makes a little more sense that boxes would be on a dolly. With the correct construction, you can restack the boxes on the other side of the dolly and also you'll be able to move the fourth 'fixed' box. Sincerely, David
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
Several months back, someone on the Café listed for sale a Stack of Boxes constructed on a dolly. It was a nice-loooking illusion but, best I can remember, he got no takers.
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Lou Hilario Inner circle 2235 Posts |
Here is a sketch of the base I plan to build. Please feel free to give me any suggestions on how I can improve on this. Total depth is 7 1/2 inches. Base is 32 inches square. Each box is 17" high by 20" wide. My lady assistant is 5 feet 5 inches tall + 2 1/2 inch heels, 95 pounds. She is very slim. Thanks!
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