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It would be difficult to smuggle anything in an Asylum.
Maybe crayons. But not in the suicide wing. They turn over your mattress several times a day and there is no place else to hide things. Even the toilet has a lock box over the back. Cameras too. No I don't want to talk about it.
Crayons. If you are going for realism.
If it's surrealism you want then I can't beat the pocket watch idea. But only if it was with a pale grey top hat.
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It would be difficult to smuggle anything in an Asylum.
Maybe crayons. But not in the suicide wing. They turn over your mattress several times a day and there is no place else to hide things. Even the toilet has a lock box over the back. Cameras too. No I don't want to talk about it.
Crayons. If you are going for realism.
If it's surrealism you want then I can't beat the pocket watch idea. But only if it was with a pale grey top hat.


This Asylum is 1930 Victorian England so I think the rules would have been a little lapse.

The Magpie grew up on the streets of London, she was taught by one of the greatest pickpockets and swindlers of her time, but it soon became an obsession she couldn't control.

Like I said the stuff was concealed in a cavity inside her wall, she had painstakingly scratched out all the concrete from around the brick... It had remained un-noticed for decades...

But yes I am going for realism.
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Silvertongue, I think the entire premise for this routine is marvelous !
You have brought to light yet another character I had never heard about before

thankyou for opening my eyes and mind to her.

Sincerely,

Kotah
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Thank you Kotah... It is through you my friend.

Mags also thanks you.

She is a character in my new show 'Silent Voices' but more on that soon...
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On 2009-02-19 12:49, Silvertongue wrote:
This Asylum is 1930 Victorian England so I think the rules would have been a little lapse.


Not sure if this is a faux par Silvertongue, but 1930's isn't Victorian England. Colney Hatch was built around 1850 which was VE however.

BTW - did you ever manage to get one of those brochures of the 6th phase of flat conversion for the Hatch?

Cheers,
Matt
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I know this is the Bizarre forum but I'm thinking a few objects that you could maybe use in routines.

Key (Haunted?)
A Finger Ring.
A chain (Fast & Loose?)
A pill box. (Okito Box?)

I can see a service bell being used to call lounging patient to dinner or something.
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If you didn't understand why my first example was Arkham Asylum...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magpie_(comics)
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I never did get the brochure no. I still need to and I placed Victorian in the wrong context. But remnants from that era... yeah.

Curator you rule, you all do...


Whats in the bundle Maggie Pye
What caused that twinkle in your birdlike eye?
For it is sure their past and future you could see.
and that one day that bundle would be waiting there for me.
For as long as space exists,
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For that long, may I too remain,
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How cool would it be though given Maggie's profession in life, to empty the contents out of the bundle, do the show then at the end open the bundle to put the objects away and see that the Magpie's been upto her old tricks again and the bundle is full of watches and wallets, rings and stuff she's pilfered off the audience during the show.

Alas 'Silent Voices' is not about Maggie, although she would have you believe otherwise.. and I also have a fear some people may be leaving the show early due to fear...thus maybe leaving their stuff behind.

Just spreading my imagination, ignore me...
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I don't know about England. But our Mental Hospital here in those days had a room full of bathtubs for "cold water therapy" so she could have a sponge or something bath-y.
Also, rollerskates. There was a hallway in the staff dormitory that they used to rollerskate in here.
It also had it's own cemetary, and the waters of the lake it was on were believed to be medicinal by the Spokane Indians of the area, so they took the residents out there to swim. They also had a baseball team.
I have a lot of notes on the history of the place, and some really creepy stuff.
I will look through them and put more down here.

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It would be difficult to smuggle anything in an Asylum.
Maybe crayons. But not in the suicide wing. They turn over your mattress several times a day and there is no place else to hide things. Even the toilet has a lock box over the back. Cameras too. No I don't want to talk about it.
Crayons. If you are going for realism.
If it's surrealism you want then I can't beat the pocket watch idea. But only if it was with a pale grey top hat.


This Asylum is 1930 Victorian England so I think the rules would have been a little lapse.

The Magpie grew up on the streets of London, she was taught by one of the greatest pickpockets and swindlers of her time, but it soon became an obsession she couldn't control.

Like I said the stuff was concealed in a cavity inside her wall, she had painstakingly scratched out all the concrete from around the brick... It had remained un-noticed for decades...

But yes I am going for realism.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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What if she stole objects from the medical team and/or an object for an inmate that should never be lost...
Realism doesn't mean that fantastic should be absent.
You may also mix both concepts: the objects from Alice in Wonderland in an asylum paraphernalia look.
Hat of a psychiatrist with a label 10 shillings/6 pence inside, medecine bottles for growing hair products, and so on...
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http://www.prestonchild.com/books/cabinet/

the remains of thirty-six people murdered and gruesomely dismembered over 130 years ago by an unknown serial killer.
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I read the book and loved it. I'm a fan of Preston and Child since "the Relic".
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An this one is THE best one...
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Ooo, and restraints, got to be restraints.
Handcuffs, straightjackets, leather cuffs with straps and buckles, as if yaken off of a chair.
Imagine a seance with this theme, with all the chairs with wrist restraints on them...
There would be books, inmates and staff would do some reading, it would account for a wide variety of titles.
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The "Do you believe in Real Magick" thread? Smile


So that's where that went!!! lol
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MAgus, you are brilliant. Sick and twisted too <g>. A seance in which participants are strapped to their chairs with wrist cuffs! What better way to insure only the spirits are controlling certain manifistations.

I think your concept is new and ingenious.

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The brick is removed from the wall and to the disturbing bewilderment of the worker the contents is revealed:

-2 whittled charcoal pencils
-1 pocket knife (with name inscribed, as if given as a gift)
-The wallet of the same person the knife was stolen from (one of the asylum staff)
-A straight jacket with a frighteningly detailed map of the asylum drawn in charcoal on its back like a map.
-An entire ring of skeleton keys to the rooms of the asylum
-A half used candle
-A leather bag of money and jewelry

I get the impression that she is not insane in an "irrational" sense. She is insane in the sense that she MUST steal. She is perfectly fine residing in her cell, as long as she can manufacture the means to continue thievery. It's like her opium.
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I get the impression that she is not insane in an "irrational" sense. She is insane in the sense that she MUST steal. She is perfectly fine residing in her cell, as long as she can manufacture the means to continue thievery. It's like her opium.


No her 'opiate' comes from the handling of the objects. She had the power of psychometry and didn't understand it. An Orphan, brought up on the streets of Victorian London, the unwanted daughter of a prostitute, she was taken under the wing of a Master pickpocket, lock picker and all around general Scam artist. Like Oliver Twist she was used for her baby faced looks - begging - and her small stature - burglary -

Around age 8 or so her clairvoyant power of psychometry started to manifest and her obsession came from wanting to understand what was happening to her. Being poor and living on the street, objects of psychometric value were hard to come by so her only means was to steal or borrow as she calls it. But just like a Magpie, certain objects caught Maggie's eye and this is what caused her eventual incarceration in the Hatch.

I like the idea of the ring of skeleton keys and also the map... Thanks.

Funnily enough though my Sister went garage sailin this morning and brought me 3 books one of which is 'Cabinet of Curiosities' Wierd!!!
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There are a lot of interesting old medical things out there. Pill bottles and such.
Something else they used to have on the campus of our Mental Hospital was a primate center. They experimanted on monkeys there.
Did you know that the man who invented the lobotomy recieved a Nobel prize for it?


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What if she stole objects from the medical team and/or an object for an inmate that should never be lost...
Realism doesn't mean that fantastic should be absent.
You may also mix both concepts: the objects from Alice in Wonderland in an asylum paraphernalia look.
Hat of a psychiatrist with a label 10 shillings/6 pence inside, medecine bottles for growing hair products, and so on...
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers
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