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Maggie started getting better and better, against all odds and contrary to medical beliefs at the time. Crazy people don't get "well", it almost never happen. Her doctor on the other hand started exhibiting symptoms of schitzophrenia and delusions of persecution.
After a year Maggie was released.
Six days after her Doctor had been committed.
She one of the nurses as she left, When my cleptomania was finially gone, I knew I could over come my other problems.
When asked how her compulsion to steal had been abated, she said that there was no challenge to it any more, she had stolen her greatest coup and had shown she was the master thief, with no challenges left, it was time to move on.
When asked what had been this great theft. She told the nurse she had stolen the doctors sanity, and she was taking it with her. Finders Keepers.
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I start building my own Colney Hatch set.
As usual, I have to find real artefacts (this time about madness).
First very unique catch, a XIXth century Warren Mouth Opener, that may still have been in use in the 1930/40's...

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Very primative approach. Would it work on a patient with no teeth?
YEt another amazing item from the curators vast collection. how are You fixed on torture devices ? THis mouth opener almost qualifies as being one.

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On 2009-03-13 08:46, KOTAH wrote:
Very primative approach. Would it work on a patient with no teeth?
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In this case, you probably plug it violently in some other place. When the patient screams, he opens his mouth...
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In that case, I hope they wash it between uses....
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Hope so...
But what's really interesting is the fact that this object symbolizes a certain brutal attitude towards the patients. And it's visually attractive. The objects creates immediately a disturbing atmosphere.
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I just have images of that thing clicking down my teeth 1 notch at a time. What a horrible contraption it is. It really makes me feel quiet uneasy. It looks so innocentish, until you hear what its for. I'd imagine they may of had trouble getting them out of the patients mouths too. Horrible...

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First try at the Warden's box.
Whistle, mouth opener, poison bottle(remedy), Waddington letter cards, photographs circa 1890, spoon, cigarettes...

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Lovely. Can't wait to see the finished story...
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I fill up the bottle, add an old medical chronometer, a mirror, a funnel, a deck of cards... The spoon has a rabbit engraved.
The warden assisted the nurse who used at very regular times the spoon for the potion: we've the "white nurse with a rabbit spoon" (white rabbit and the chronometer), the funnel in case of the patient didn't want to open her mouth (the hole), the playing cards (wih the queen of hearts visible), the potion (drink me), the mirror etc.
I still have to find a key, but that's easy.
I did what I described earlier on this topic... Smile
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Next step...
I add a thimble too. Something that was confiscated from the patient.

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Curator, great analogies for Alice
Here's a couple of admittedly weaker ones Silvertongue

A solitary cell is sometimes referred to as "The Hole"
Hmmm, takes place in the 30's, A amle nurse, a Hipster who smiles all the time, ("A real cool Cat") might be the cheshire cat.
An inmate imagining playing golf with a flamingo. (Using, not accompanied by)
Someone visiting, doing some work there with an assistant with a huge handlebar mustache could be the walrus and the carpenter.
The mad hatter shouldn't be too tough to work in considering the location.
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The nurse is the white rabbit and the keeper should be the Cheshire cat in my scenario (he's from Chester). Some inmates maybe various characters and the asylum is Wonderland.
The number of possible effects is incredible as the patient is often found with unusual items (where do they come from ?) - a thimble, a fossil oyster shell, a broken teacup, ... Usually they are confiscated but the most curious have been kept.
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I will mix the concept of Alice and the Lost Room objects together.
Even in isolation, Alice was found with objects, that were later confiscated. No one ever knows how she get those, but the objects act strangely.
Objects with an asterisk were found in Alice's hands. The other were possession of the warden or the nurse.

Until now I have as references to Alice:
- a book with no picture or conversation in it (Luna, you know what it does)
- *an egg painted with a butterfly (circa 1940)(repair broken objects)
- *a mirror (duplicates objects but the duplicate can penetrate the mirror)
- keys (turn in the hand...)
- *a fossil oyster
- potion (in poison bottle)
- *Deck of cards (the queen of hearts is ambitious, the 2-5-7 spades can turn any white object to red)
- *a silver thimble (if you steal it, it comes back to his/her owner)
- a spoon with a rabbit
- a teacup and a cream pot
- *a tiny pepper shaker (turns an item into a piggy)
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Keys
hairpins (for picking locks)
bodkins
chalk and powders
snuffbox
pocket watch
photo in a locket
two silver hoops
piano wire

put the last two together for a garrotte...
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Here are the items found in the hands of Alice:

- Egg with a butterfly (Humty-Dumpty and the Caterpillar)
- the pepper shaker (hospital version)
- the golden key
- the thimble
- the mirror
- the deck of cards
- the leather gloves (I spend a lot of time trying to find this model)
- the fossilized oyster (or dead oyster)


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I can see a pair of false teeth fitting in quiet nicely. Grinning back at the audience as the Storyteller smokes on his Hookah...

As always... Inspired and amazed...

Thanks Curator, Iain, Magus... everyone...
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On the yellow boar, Thoughts told me this:

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Just one thing:
The mouth opener ist still used today in that shape, and has nothing to do with insanity.
Instead it is used after orthopedic face or jaw surgeries to widen the facial muscles to
enable the patients to open their mouths more and more again.
They even have to do this exercise themselves by screwing it between the teeth a little bit more
every day and hold it there for several minutes.


But it still can be used in a medical context, that's perfect.
The warden has some facial paralysis and an eternal grin after being assaulted by a patient. He must use the mouth opener on himself, but uses it sometimes on nuts...
It makes the warden looks even more like the Cheshire Cat in the story.
(And I must have teeth somewhere...)
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