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Does anyone know of a book/document/DVD compiling all the variations
of this classic effect?
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It doesn't exist--there are too many versions, some of which are sold by the big dealers, and some, like mine (I have several) sold independently or not sold at all.

It would be a cool project, though, but you'd have an awfully hard time compiling ALL the variations.
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I'm not aware of any book talking exclusively on the Out of This World effect.
Although, I'd highly recommend Michael Weber and Dean Dill's trick: A New World.
It's by far the cleanest and most mind blowing version I've seen so far.

PM me if you find an answer to your question !

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The owner of the Magic Apple in Los Angeles is currently compiling an OOTW text.
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By the rate L&L are going with their World's Greatest Magic (of the World's Greatest Magicians) series, it wouldn't suprise me if the came out with one dedicated to OOTW. Don't know how long you will have to wait, though.
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Here is a good start. Take a look at Lawrence O.'s post about midway thru the thread.

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It's not likely that the best methods will be collected into one volume. The publisher would have to get permission to reprint from Eugene Burger, Paul Harris, Derren Brown and Luke Jermay, in addition to publishing earlier methods. I don't see that happening, and honestly, without those contributors any OOTW compilation will be incomplete.

I prefer a straightforward effect. In my search for the perfect Out of This World method and presentation (using an ordinary deck), I, along with my local magic buddies, have found the following variations to be most helpful:

1)U.F. Grant's "Nu-Way" OOTW (see Eugene Burger's Exploring Magical Presentations DVD for the best, most logical performance). It's the best impromptu method with a borrowed deck (no preparation).

2)Paul Harris' "Galaxy" (many swear by this) from Art of Astonishment, vol. 3

3)Derren Brown's OOTW from "Devil's Picturebook" (IMHO either this or Galaxy)

4)Luke Jermay's work on OOTW in his book, "Building Blocks"

5)"Whitestar" (a living/dead test effect with a method applicable to any OOTW presentation).

6)A str****r d***, for a very fair shuffle by the participant before the effect begins. I don't know where that's published. I discovered it independantly; I'm sure others have as well. It's one of the very best uses of this indetectable gaff. If I don't have one available, I use Lennart Green's method to get the deck ready, then I make a few minor adjustments to allow the participant to openly shuffle via the Paul Harris setup.

Before the effect, a d*** sw**** sometimes also works well for getting set.

The one version I've never used is Harry Lorayne's "Out of This Universe." It's a fine effect, and you can read about it in other threads. Not what I was personally looking for.

Although I haven't divulged any secrets, I feel I've given away too much. Try each one of the methods, then tell me if I'm wrong... these are the best solutions thus far (with a nod to Paul Curry's brilliance for pioneering the original).
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Obviously not too-well informed if you use Lennart Green's rip-off of my The Great Divide to set for OOTW. Or, if you don't know how I set for my Out Of This Universe from a shuffled deck, which I teach (yes, get ready for a plug) in LORAYNE: THE CLASSIC COLLECTION, Volume 1. HL.
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A rebuke? "Obviously not too-well informed...?" Please, calm down.

Lennart's set-up is identical to yours? I'll let you and him settle that. If it's truly a rip-off, I apologize for not crediting you... he doesn't credit you, so how would I know without owning your books? I'm surprised I've never bought any of your books, but... do I need to list for you the classics in my library to prove I'm not a thirteen-year-old "street magic" enthusiast?
When I finally do buy your materials, it will be for other effects and ideas. So far, no one has ever shown me an effect that grabbed me and said, "that's in Harry Lorayne's ________" and got me excited enough to buy the book. It will probably happen eventually, and when it does you will have your revenge. For now, I have enough card books. If The Great Divide is indeed identical to the Angle Separation, I'll buy the book it appears in for the sake of fairness and peace of mind. The workman is worth his wages.

I borrowed the book with your OOTW about fifteen years ago from one of your big fans. I never used your routine because when I read it and saw it performed, it wasn't the solution I was looking for. Why? I didn't want to go into that topic on this forum, you've heard it before, but: too long in duration for my needs, too confusing... and wasn't there some clean-up involved at the end? Perhaps not. I do remember it left me unsatisfied and I passed it over. So what?

I've performed and sold magic for almost 20 years and I know I've seen effects of yours that I liked... but in comparison to the OOTW's I've already mentioned, yours was furthest from my goals. I'm sure it's probably better than any answer I would've invented on my own.
No doubt at the time yours was first published, it was groundbreaking, and I agree it's important in the evolution of the trick. IT'S ONLY MY OPINION. If you're insulted, I'm sorry. I know there are many satisfied performers of Out of This Universe who currently use it as their favorite method. I personally know at least two. That's why I mentioned it in my earlier post.

Do you get upset at everyone who states an opinion about OOTW without plugging your variation? I was trying to be fair in my last post; I stated my thoughts gently. Responding to a post like yours is so unpleasant, because I feel you've cornered me into a negative response I never wanted to give. After so many years, I know who you are. I do respect your work, Harry, but I'm unimpressed with your rude retort.

Posted: Feb 28, 2009 9:16am
After sleeping on that last post, I feel a little sick to my stomach. I don't think I should've written while angry. I'm very sorry.

Not five minutes after I finished, I read a reccomendation for Harry Lorayne's "Remembering People," which I know I need to read because I forget spectators' names. I know it will probably be the most important thing I read this year.

I've done a little research this morning. It does seem that the Angle Separation is the same idea as the Great Divide. At least you could have been credited. You have a right to be angry about it. I'll buy the book.
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"Out Of This Universe" is a really great trick, but in my opinion it´s not a "Out Of The World" effect.

Two types of effects, both great but different.

Just my opinion.
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Okay, Mike, I accept your apology if, in fact, that's what it is. But, I really (and I don't mean this sarcastically)couldn't care less about what you think of my Out Of This Universe, or of any of my work. That's not the point here at all. Just to keep the record straight, I only get a bit miffed when people who should, don't know about my The Great Divide, which was originally manuscripted/copyrighted in 1972. And, no, Lennart's rip-off is not "identical" - it's nowhere NEAR as good. And, of course, he doesn't credit me - thieves don't usually credit their victims. And, "buying my book" won't teach you my The Great Divide - thanks anyway. It isn't in print anywhere. (It IS on one of my "Best Ever" DVD volumes.) But, again, that's not the point - it's your loss, if anyone's. The only point I wanted to make was re: the rip-off.

I've written this a number of times, so I'll bore some, but - Lennart is one of the best darn cardman alive today - that's a given. But, HE RIPPED-OFF my The Great Divide. Thank you for giving me the right to be angry, Mike. And, you are a bit behind the times; again, I don't mean this rudely or sarcastically, but my book, REMEMBERING PEOPLE has been out of print for over at least a decade! I've written quite a few on the subject since. My most current is AGELESS MEMORY (originally titled, The Over-50 Memory Book, but it "works" for any age).

Another "incidentally," Mike. If you check my original response to your original post, as I just did, you may have to search for my "rudeness." You may consider "not too well informed" as being rude; I sure didn't mean it to be. It's a fact, Mike. If you were well-informed you'd have known about my The Great Divide. I'm glad to see that you realize about writing "while angry." So, again, thanks for giving me that right. I do love you. Best - HARRY LORAYNE.
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Classic Collection Vol. 1 is awesome. I highly recommend it!
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On 2009-02-26 16:29, Mike Ince wrote:
These are the best solutions thus far (with a nod to Paul Curry's brilliance for pioneering the original).


Just to be clear...

You're saying these are the best so far in YOUR research, not that these these are the best ever created so far. Is that accurate? Because while the former may well be true, you'd have to had seen/read every version ever created for the latter to be accurate.
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On 2009-02-26 16:29, Mike Ince wrote:
These are the best solutions thus far (with a nod to Paul Curry's brilliance for pioneering the original).


Just to be clear...

You're saying these are the best so far in YOUR research, not that these these are the best ever created so far. Is that accurate? Because while the former may well be true, you'd have to had seen/read every version ever created for the latter to be accurate.


That goes without saying (so why say it?). I have to say that anyone who uses a superlative like "best" has to back up their statement, but it's still only opinion. If I were to say "these are the best versions ever created" and I could somehow prove to you I'd SEEN every version created, I'd still be making a subjective statement. For the record, I haven't seen every version.
I don't know how to scientifically, unequivocally quantify which version is "best", but I can back up MY opinion of what's best. I feel good about making that first post (with the exception of crediting Lennart Green instead of Harry Lorayne, but that's really between Mr. Lorayne and me, isn't it? And it seems to be cleared up. I was very wrong, and he's very gracious.)
I agree; anything I post is based on MY research. I've looked for several years, however, and I think that counts for something. I'm fortunate to have picked the brains of a number of cardmen I respect, and these are my favorite methods (and theirs). With the exception of U.F. Grant's, each one of these methods looks very straightforward and can be done impromptu.
The participant shuffles the UNGAFFED cards (perhaps with my exception of a s******* deck), deals TWO piles, and the piles can be shown to be either all red or all black (or in the case of Whitestar, all dead or all survivors). It's preferable that the participant can turn over the piles, eliminating (in their mind) the possibility of switches.
I'd be interested to hear if you've found another published routine fitting the above parameters that's superior to those methods already listed. At this point, I doubt there is one (in print). I'd be happy if you'd prove otherwise, because I'm still open to more options. In reference to THAT straightforward effect, perhaps I've seen every published method. Impossible to know without reading every card magic book ever written. Know anyone who's done that? Me neither.
There is one I like in which the performer is blindfolded, separates the face-up cards, fails, then turns over the piles to show one red-backed pile and one blue-backed pile. Great idea, but can't be done with a single borrowed deck (unless you have time to draw X's with a Sharpie n*** w****r on the backs of half the cards).
If you want to talk about OOTW effects in which the PERFORMER deals, utilizes specially-printed cards, stooges, etc., that's a different can of worms.

One fair shuffle, two piles dealt, no procedural "noise"... just pure effect.

I didn't make the first post to begin an argument. I was answering a question with my best response. I don't enjoy the arguments very much, even when I occasionally win; they turn my stomach. I'll leave "argument for argument's sake" to the smart alecs.

Posted: Mar 3, 2009 4:38am
Ran out of time to edit that last post. I know I haven't read every version, Scott, because I haven't read yours!

I know the evolution of OOTW isn't over. Combining the methods used in the versions which I first posted, I've put together a routine I enjoy. None of the methods are mine, just the presentation, which isn't unique enough to bother publishing.
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Not trying to start an argument, just trying to clarify, as I said. Perhaps a different choice of words, such as "The ones I like best" or "these are my favorites."

The ONLY reason I even brought it up was because I thought that was what you meant and was just checking to make sure I was right in that regard. I've come across a few versions that I like much better than the ones you listed, and I personally have never cared for Galaxy because of the revelation. Personal preference, and like you said, not worth fighting about--it's just a bloody card trick, after all.
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Agreed.

Yes, the revelation in Galaxy is too blurry, though sometimes I begin with Derren Brown's presentation and finish with Galaxy (sometimes an Eagle Eye walks in halfway-through who won't be misdirected, so I change course). I don't like doing it, and rarely have to, but I'm glad Galaxy is in my bag o' tricks. If I'm feeling less than confident, I prefer to compromise in the end than risk being caught outright.

Opening with a color-sensing routine like Sean Waters' "Beyond Touch" appeals to me. First I separate the colors, they're confounded... now they separate the colors, and we're all amazed at how well they've done.
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Does anyone know of a book/document/DVD compiling all the variations
of this classic effect?

I know some books/documents compiling A LOT of the variations
of this classic effect:
I'm very sorry but I know only this sources in German:

Paul Curry: OUT OF THIS WORLD – AND BEYOND. German Issue, Zauber-Zentrale-München, 1975
This book of course must be published also in English!

Denis Behr: Außerirdisch. Paul Currys Klassiker und mehr. magische welt 51/2002, pp. 608 – 610 (German Journal)

Rudolf Bahlke, "OoTW" - Buch und Seminar, ca. 1983, Germany (OotW - book and lecture", with more then 30 variations).

Rudolf Bahlke, "OoTW" - lecture in 5 issues of the German Journal "Zauberkunst" in the 80s.

There is a great close-up variation by German Top Magician Axel Hecklau with a borrowed and shuffled deck in standing conditions (without table!) "OotW Xtrem".
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I believe U.F. Grant had the first version of Out of this World with a shuffled deck. He sold it as a separate effect/manuscript.
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Stewart James has some wonderful work on this plot.
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We are touching the problem of crediting here.
On one hand Mike Ince is making a confusion about the fairness of crediting: he credits, as is often done, the author he learned something from without having taken the trouble to recheck if this source is the primary source. As such in his sincere desire to be fair, Mike spreads an erroneous information reinforcing a confusing rumor.

On the other hand Harry is using the term "Rip off" admitting that Lennart Green's variant is "not identical", which seems to me to be an oxymoron. Harry raise a question that he should clear for his own readers (and I'm a fanatic one) and the community here. What originality do you, Harry, claim with the Great Divide? Do you claim to be the first to have proposed a method for separating the colors in front of the spectators (in which case we might have an argument for Paul Curry does state in Out of This World and Beyond that this can and should be done) or do you claim for your original method (but then you state yourself that Lennart Green's method is "not identical"). Please precise, as one of the best card expert in the world, when a "variant" is, in your opinion, a "Rip Off", bearing in mind that with too wide an interpretation, more than 50% of Marlo's work could be classified as "Rip Off" and that your very interesting Out Of This Universe would be at risk of being classified as a "Rip Off" of Paul Curry's Out Of This World.

This is really an interesting topic and it's interesting to have your opinion on this difference between "Variant" and "Rip Off". Naturally I have an opinion which is that your Out Of This Universe is a "variation" or "original version" and that the Great Divide is a "variation" or "original version" for separating the red from the black cards. I also happen to think that Lennart Green is handling cards with the mind of a genius and the gestures of a bear. This prevents me of using most of his technique which cannot be easily adapted with a call for elegance and lightness. This however is apparently not a problem for the majority of magicians and jury who celebrate Lennart for his creativity. Even with this it seems to me that the term Rip Off should be replaced by "variant of the great divide" but since you Harry created the great divide and used the term Rip Off, the magical community needs a more precise complaint or claim on your part to be able to form an opinion and be able to credit innovators properly.


Posted: Mar 11, 2009 6:25am
Here is an updated bibliography of the OOTW effects more complete than the one referenced to in this thread:

Ackerman, Allan: Lecure notes : "wednesday nights" Allan has a nice handling about how to finish very clean on the Out of this world effect, and the effect his Doc Tarbell on out of this world. & Las Vegas Kardma A-1 MultiMedia, (1994), 176 pages. P. 156 - Out of this World #2000

Ammar, Michael. Easy To Master Card Miracles Volume 9 Impromptu, 1/2 Deck, OOTW Plus (Paul Curry, Harry Lorayne, Aldo Colombini, Michael Ammar) & Exciting World Of Magic: Out of This World (Paul Curry)

Andrus, Jerry: Out of this Universe.

Rudolf Bahlke, "OoTW" - Buch und Seminar, ca. 1983, Germany (OotW - book and lecture", with more then 30 variations). & "OoTW" - lecture in 5 issues of "Zauberkunst" (German magazine) in the 80s.

Baines, Dan: From Hell (especially when coupled with his modified "Book of Revelations", so as to fit the theme) is an great bit of business

Barnowski, Larry. Kindom of the Red Book and DVD

Barradell, Ian. Perfect World. JB Magic DVD

Beam, Steve. Semi Automatic Card Tricks 6 p 76 Curry Recipes, p 76 All is Right With the World (Steve Beam), p 78 World Series Fans (Steve Beam), p 82 World Class Joker (Steve Beam), p 86 Out of this Deck (Boris Wild), p 90 Rack and Bled (Lewis Jones), p 92 World Piece (Steve Beam), p 94 Worldly Processions (Steve Beam)

Beebe, Dr. Raymond L. An Impromptu “Out Of This World”. Hugard’s Magic Monthly & Out Of This World and Back. Hugard’s Magic Monthly

Denis Behr: Außerirdisch. Paul Currys Klassiker und mehr. Magische Welt (German magazine) 51/2002, pp. 608 – 610

Brown, Derren. Out of this World, explained in Devils Picture Book The Professional Card Repertoire of Derren Brown DVD. & “Undertaker” Pure effect Comments on doing the effect with other props than cards

Chanduri, Tony. Cross to the Feminine Side”. Ron Bauer "Private Studies" series (Nick Trost technical solution).

Chenevière, Stéphane. Altitude. very practical strolling Out of This World version adding a prediction to the colour separation.

Claire, Leslie: A Good Card Trick The Magic Wand October 1910. The effect is that magician picks out red cards or black cards from a well shuffled deck according to spectator's indication. If spectator says "Red", he correctly picks out a red card, or vice versa.
Any ordinary pack of cards can be used. After sorting out the Black cards from the Red, the Black cards are handed to the audience with a request that they see that they are all Black cards. These are taken back and the Red cards similarly handed over with a like request. Whilst spectator is looking at the Red cards, slightly bridge the Black cards which are held in the hand, and after receiving back the Red cards, all are well shuffled together and in this condition the full pack is placed face downwards on the table. It is now an easy matter to pick out whichever color is called for, as the Black cards are slightly bridged, whilst the Red ones lie flat on the table.

Colombini, Aldo. The Close Up Magic of Aldo Colombini p155 "Out of this Country", p158 "Out of Color", p159 "Out of Apocalypse", p162 "Half a World Away", p166 "Out of Suits" & Eurotour Lecture Notes year 1997 « It’s a small World » A powerful routine with a random distribution in four packs associated to shuffles.

Conn, Doug: Connsolidated Connundrums ©2006 Doug Conn; p 16 As The World Turns: An approach to Curry's Out of This World for three spectators

Cornelius, John. One way out of this world

Critchlow, Jim: White Star (2008) It's a classic routining with just one pile by spectator and a reject pile. The originality here is that the routine is not done with playing cards but with old photographs of passengers of the Titanic which have, printed on the back, some details about them and whether they "survived" or "died". Naturally one spectator ends up with only passengers who survived and the other one with passengers who died

Curry, Paul. Out of this World (1942) & Magician's Magic (Dover, 1965) in Chapter 13 p 239 Paul Curry, under the heading "Out of This World", states: "Here's a story about one of my best-known tricks. [Story about Winston Churchill omitted] What follows is an explanation -- appearing in a book for the first time -- of this same red-black trick that so thoroughly and repeatedly baffled Winston Churchill, as well as practically everyone else who has seen it performed. It's known to my friends and to magicians generally as "Out of This World." & Paul Curry Presents (1974) p 91 The "World" Revisited p 94 Best of Possible Worlds & Out of this World - and Beyond (1975) p. 1 Out of This World - And Beyond p 5 And Now - the Variations p 10 The Impromptu Methods p 16 Variations on the Effect p 17 Color Thot ( by Martin Gardner) & Out of This World - And Beyond German translation, Zauber-Zentrale-München, 1975 & Paul Curry's Worlds Beyond (2001) 382 pages Illustrated by Paul Curry p183 Out of This World p190 Best of Possible Worlds

Daley, Dr Jacob. Phoenix # 287 p 1146: Rouge et Noir

Dill, Dean & Weber, Michael: A New World. The Paul Curry classic to fool the ones “in the know” with special gaffs, secret marks, hidden codes, subtle cues, and a built-in memory-free version of the Aronson Stack. A New World relies on a heavily gimmicked deck. The handling of the deck is natural so it doesn’t call to itself. And the spectator can shuffle the deck with some management and direction from the performer. Throughout, casual but firm audience control is a must. The gimmicked deck removes the need to begin new piles in the middle and execute the switch at the end. On the downside, the outcome can only be displayed by the magician and you’re not left clean. “A New World” uses only half of the deck for the effect, which works well.

Domain P. Ibidem. Impromptu version

Draun, Steve. Secrets Draun From Underground (1993). 151 pages: p 133 Worldly Things (by: Steven Draun) & Standing Room Only : Volume 2 If you could accomplish this classic effect by real magic, it might look very much like this - the clean-up is that good

Falkenstein and Willard. Out of this World. Masters of Mental Magic DVD Vol 3

Fulves, Karl. Even Money Proposition Pallbearer’s Review

Gardner, Martin. Martin Gardner Presents by Mathew Field, Mark Philips, Harvey Rosenthal and Max Maven Published by Richard Kaufman and Alan Greenberg (1993) 425 pages. p65 Out of This World Tip (Paul Curry), p65 Another Out of This World, p67 A New Way Out of This World

Gordon, Paul. The Eradicator" from Card Conjuring

Grant U.F. Nu-Way Out of this World Out of this world...and beyond by Paul Curry. P 13: U.F Grant’s version starting with a shuffled deck. The favorite method of famous magicians like Pete Biro

Green, Lennart. The Green Angel Separation. Page 15 Out of this World; Page 16 Out of this Break & Out of this Green World. Green Magic Volume: 2 & Out of Sweden. The Looking Glass (Spring 1996) p. 60: The spectator deals the cards, one pile has all the red cards and the second has all of the black cards. Then the performer sets aside a black card then shows the rest of the cards are red. Then the red cards vanish and you are left with the black cards

Guimaraes Helder. Out of this Water. Small Miracles (Penguin)

Guinn, Scott F: Great Scott! It's a Magic Lecture! Practical, Commercial Magic with Cards, Coins, and Other Things ©2000 Scott Guinn. p 12 What in the World? Out of this world variation

Harris, Paul & Jone, Wyman : Galaxy. The Art of Astonishment book 3 p 253 “Galaxy”


Axel Hecklau "OotW Xtrem".OOTW performed with a borrowed and shuffled deck in standing conditions (without table) http://www.stolina.de/cgi-bin/shop.pl?f=......tem_2002

Jermays, Luke.

Kennedy, John: Intuition. Card College Light by Roberto Giobbi (three piles red black and wrong) & “Red and Black”. Genii Magazine March 1989 p. 560-562

Longe, Bob. Get Out of this World. The World’s best card tricks

Loomis, Dennis. Out of My Mind. http://www.loomismagic.com/memdeck21.php.

Lorayne, Harry: Out Of The Universe in Close Up Card Magic (1962) p 80 Impromptu Out Of This World in My Favorite card tricks (1965: Lou Tannen). & My Favorite Card Tricks section of The Classic Collection, Vol. 1. Harry’s take with a shuffled deck which has a nice, simple fix at the end & Out of this Universe. Close up card magic and in & Out Of This Galaxy. Trendsetters & The Classic Collection, Vol. 1. Harry’s impromptu Out of this World is there, re-written, updated & Best Ever Collection DVD #2. Out of This Universe & The Great Divide 1972 manuscript

MacTier, Arthur F. Card Concepts (2000) by Lewis Davenport Limited P. 230 ..... Out of Gilbreath's World

McCabe, Pete. Scripting Magic

Marlo, Ed. “Out of This World Handling” Ibidem Volume 2. P. 582 & “Three Trips to Out Of This World” Marlo’s Magazine Volume: 6 p. 221

Martinez, Daryl. Out of this Hemisphere (1989) 10 Pages Out of this Hemisphere

Mendoza, John. Mendoza’s Out Of This World. Live and Personal DVD

Muller, Reinhard. Out of my Mind. Spell-Binder Magazine. Digital edition by Martin Breese http://www.martinbreese.com/cdroms.htm

Ouellet, Gary. Netherworld. Close Up Illusions (1990) 350 pages Chapter 30: Netherworld

Prost, Jean Yves. Variations sur un thème classique. Arcane N° 13 and 14: Robert Harbin and Martin Gardner versions & Georges Pouleau (Diavol) and U.F. Grant variants.

Racherbaumer, Jon. Sticks & Stones Number 1: Subconscious is achieved with a stripper deck.

Regal, David. Out of This Borough. Constant Fooling 2 (2002) Murphy's Magic Supplies, Inc. p 83 Out of this Borough & Tricks, More Tricks, Enough with the Tricks Already! DVD #3

Richardson, Barrie. Theatre of the Mind Page 76 When Worlds Collide & Act Two.

Reed, Harry & Arlane (Ed Turner). World Out Of This (Joker) World by Mike Rogers http://www.stevensmagic.com/gemini/Mike%20Rogers/OutOfThisJokerWorld.

Rostami, Greg. Cosmos DVD From a deck shuffled by the spectators the cards are dealt in two rows (no stop half way through) and the reds are on one side and the black on the other. The performer can secretly know the red ones from the black ones either by opposite bends in the cards or by an edge mark on both sides near the middle.

Sanderson, George P. Right Under Their Noses 1977 Micky Hades International, Canada p. 23: Thanks to Paul Curry: Another approach to Curry's Out of this World. Does not provide the entire routine, but only an improved approach to revealing the two packets

Sankey, Jay. Dowsing. Bonus effects on 3 Ring Circus & 22 Blows to the Head. Confession

Scarne, John. Scarne on Card Tricks (Dover, 1950) has the trick as #155, the last one in the book, and introduces it like this: "A card trick in which the spectator mysteriously separates the red-face cards from the black-face cards. A top creation by the author, who has kept the method a secret for many years."

Skinner, Michael. Classic Sampler p 84: Rouge et Noir

Stewart, James. Curryculum The James File Vol 1; p 1186

Swain, James: Out of this World Miracles With Cards © 1996. p 12

Taylor, Boin. Out Of Town. Spell-Binder

Tremaine, John. Amazing Secrets of Magic and Card Tricks

Trost, Nick. Red Or Black - Which? The Card Magic of Nick Trost

Wagner J.C. Prediction out of this world: The Commercial Magic of J.C. Wagner, Mike Maxwell, 1987 & More Commercial Magic DVD Prediction Out Of This World

Weigle, Oscar. Further Out Of This World Phoenix 1949 # 182 July 29 Advertisement but the explanation is so far unpublished

Zavis, William. Phoenix # 293 p 1172 and # 299 p 1196

Zimmerman, Richard. Way Out Of this World
Magic is the art of proving impossible things in parallel dimensions that can't be reached
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