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The Great Danton
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Hey guys,
I ran a search, and didn't find anything to help me, I'm wondering what is the best way to accordion fold a 4X16 silk streamer?

I tried just folding it back and forth on the bed, which gave me a large bundle that sprang apart when I let go of one side, leaving me to do it over and not being able to get it in the load.

Any help is appreciated!

Danton
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Ron Reid
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Hello Danton:

There are a few different folds that come to mind; do you know where you'll be putting this? I'm assuming you're going to produce it from some type of apparatus.

Ron
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We accordian fold ours by hand while constantly holding them. Then we are able to fold the package in half and place an elastic band around it with just enough tension to hold it from opening. Then we pack it for transport to the show.
Donald Dunphy
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Hi Collin -

Here are a couple more ideas.

Set an object on the folded streamer, while folding. Move it up layers to the top layer as the layers grow. Much like the concept of placing a paperweight on a stack of papers.

Another method I've used, if I'm ironing the streamer, and then folding it, is to do a light press on the stack with an iron, to press the stack down a bit (lightly iron in creases where the folds are).

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You might try accordion pleating it lengthwise and then folding the bundle into a "W" shape before putting it into the load chamber with the top of the W at the opening of the production device. If mymemory is accurate, my mentor, Earl Edwards, was able to load a 50' Rice streamer into a Grant Chink Can this way for the final production. He once loaded the streamer for a show and for some reason the show was cancelled or something. The streamer was left in the Chink can for weeks. But at the next performance, the streamer was produced with no problem and looked great. His streamer fold was slated for the Rice Encyclopedia of Silk Magic, but I think Harold passed away before putting volume 4 together. I think the write-up was lost by the time the new editors put out Volume 4.
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The Great Danton
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Thanks for your help gentlemen, Yes, I'll be loading it into a gong-ho type production box, with a small square load chamber.

Any tips for getting the folds the same width? Last time I tried I ended up with 1,000,000,000,000 different widths of folds.

I'll try the above mentioned methods, and see what works!

Danton
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On 2009-02-28 23:48, The Great Danton wrote:
Any tips for getting the folds the same width? Last time I tried I ended up with 1,000,000,000,000 different widths of folds.


No wonder your streamer keeps unfolding. You are trying to fold a 16' streamer 1,000,000,000,000 times! Smile

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Make collapsble cardboard box/frame with no bottom. Fold it back in forth using the box's inside as a guide.

If you do not need the accordian fold, a silk winder is a much faster and tighter way to pack a streamer.

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Like many of the old guys, I have used my share of silk winders too. They do work to make a tight package easy to produce.

However, my specific reason for avoiding them every chance I get is that they produce a twisted streamer. The degree of the twisting can differ but it is there.

According folding can avoid that.

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The Great Danton
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Ye, I think it really should be folded, not wound, because it's going in a box...

Donald, you might be right! Maybe I should only try to fold 75-100 times. =P

Richard, thanks for the box idea, I'll be sure to try that!

Thanks for all the ideas and help,
Danton
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