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Kent Wong Inner circle Edmonton, Alberta, Canada 2458 Posts 
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On 2009-03-03 21:37, Peter Pitchford wrote: Interesting. You see, I am a student of McBride's and I don't perform anything like him. However, I do take Jeff's advice extremely seriously in the development of my own performing character. Now, I don't think there's anything wrong in a performer adopting a similar style to McBride. But does any "student" have the right to copy another performer's act in that level of detail? I don't think so. Kent
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts
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Give me a break! Jeff puts out a DVD or two on how to do everything we just saw and we expect noone to copy it?! The guy has good technical skills and one day might develop into something brilliant and original. It's not like he was doing this act on the Conan O'brien show. Get a grip people, the only people !@#$%ing are the ones that will never put the work in to obtain this level of skill. If you pimp out a video teaching everything you know and make money from it you deserve to be copied! Shame shame!
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mleskanic Regular user 152 Posts
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I disagree. Jeff has spent many years creating this act. The act WAS NOT taught on the dvd, just the moves!
If one doesn't obtain the skill level of this kid, then at least he's going to be original which is better in my opinion than to see a million McBride acts.
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Darkwing Inner circle Nashville Tn 1850 Posts
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On 2009-03-03 16:45, Big Daddy Cool wrote: John, I find myself somewhat agreeing with you on this one. Even Eugene Burger agrees that we should look at other routines and learn them. I still don't think I would have copied the routine move for move and even using the same music. In his defense, he did say it was a tribute to Jeff. Good luck at Winter Carnival. David |
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DonHarlan Loyal user Richmond, VA 296 Posts
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This "kid" doesn't really look to much like a kid, and for an adult (18+) to completely copy and act from music to moves takes a lot more than just dedication. You couldn't just watch one of Jeff McBride dvd's once and learn the routine, this guy obviously put in a lot of time and then credited the work. As long as he credits the work and preforms under a tribute artist, then this is just like another tribute band or Elvis impersonator.
"imitation is the greatest form of flattery" -Don
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts
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I think it is one thing to be inspired by a performer and perform some of the same tricks, but adopting the same costuming and mannerisms/persona is not what I would call the sincerest form of flattery. Channing Pollock was the first of the modern dove performers, and although many followed in his footsteps, most were able to set their own stamp of personality on their acts. (I believe the first of the modern dove workers was Cantu, who appeared in Mexican costume complete with serape.) I remember reading (in a Will Dexter book I think) that a prominent British comedy magician started out as a Jay Marshall clone but eventually found his own unique persona.
It is interesting that Robert-Houdin is credited with abandoning the older costuming of a wizard's robe and starting the trend of performing in what was then contemporary attire. Somehow that contemporary style eventually became accepted as THE costume of a magician and white tie and tails persisted into the 20th century. It was refreshing to see performers like Aubrey appear in shirt sleeves and still presenting an outstanding manipulation act with cards and balls. ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
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T.G Kenny Loyal user Malaysia 243 Posts
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I think it is unfair to Jeff McBride but at least "Mini McBride" credited Jeff McBride for the act.
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Big Daddy Cool Inner circle 1604 Posts
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On 2009-03-04 08:17, Darkwing wrote: What? We agree? Holy Cow, the planet just stopped turning! LOL Are you going to Winter Carnival David? I hope so. What I am doing there is pretty revolutionary... |
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Darkwing Inner circle Nashville Tn 1850 Posts
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On 2009-03-04 14:15, Big Daddy Cool wrote: John, We agree on more than you might think. Not going to Winter Carnival this year. Bummer, I have a show Sat. night. I hope things go very well for you at Gatlinburg. David |
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kipling100 Loyal user 260 Posts
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I think Jeff McBride is the only person that can get away with wearing that costume on stage. That video is just weird.
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markis Veteran user 379 Posts
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Maybe since it’s a McBride tribute act its OK to copy to that extreme? I’ve seen a Zeppelin tribute band were all the guys look, dress and sound more like Zeppelin than Zeppelin did. Funny thing is the majority of the audience doesn’t know who Jeff McBride is much less his signature card act. Those boots that kid is wearing kill me. I want a pair.
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Jimeh Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1399 Posts
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The difficulty with passing it off as a tribute act (like Markis mentioned) is that the audience in all likelihood
has no clue who McBride is. People know who Led Zeppelin is so the audience sees the tribute band in that context. Unless you clearly advertise yourself as a 'Jeff McBride Tribute Act' the audience will naturally assume you are the originator of the act itself and that to me is no tribute. |
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ibm_usa Special user In Your Mind, Ky, USA 722 Posts
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On 2009-03-06 08:50, agent61 wrote: I dare someone to agrue against this!
"You may think that i only talk of things from the past, you know, history, well magic is history"
-Guy Jarrett "Curiosity isn't a sin Harry, but it should be exorcised with great caution." -Albus Dumbledore (Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire) http://www.jordanallen-mentalist.webs.com/ |
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Posted: Mar 4, 2009 06:59 am 
at least this kid knows it and admits it.
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