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StuartNolan
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I've signed up for Patrick's Prevaricator workshop at the South Tyneside International Magic Festival on the 15th March. I'll write a review the week after if that's any help?

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I envy you that, Stuart. I am sure that will be great.


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I'm so overexcited I might faint away like a Victorian lady Smile

There's a mention of the DVD on this podcast....

http://www.magicconventionguide.com/2009......redford/
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I heard my name in there! I have been down in Newcastle all this week catching up with Kennedy and we can't believe how quickly this year has come around again! I genuinely believe that this convention is the best in the world. It's so intimate and you get a chance to speak to everyone!

I have now read an early edition of the new Prevaricator book and can I just point out that it goes so much further than the first book! If you are interested in this style of routine (which I truly am) this is going to really get you thinking!

Very best wishes (and see you next week!)

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Prevaricator is turning into an excellent DVD. Patrick is an incredibly innovative thinker and I'm proud of what our team at Vanishing Inc have done with the product.

We'll be sure to keep this thread updated as the release gets closer.

Thanks

--Andi
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As far as I'm aware no one was "put up" to posting a message about this project here. Sorry to not have come in with a reply sooner, but I've been out traveling and am now just coming in here as I received a email saying I should come reply.

Davit - I did just mentioned this down in inner thoughts with all the info I know about the project. If folks have 50 posts please have a look down that way.

Andi Gladwin or Joshua Jay would know much better than I would when the release is going to happen. They are the gentleman who own the DVD project and are in charge of its release. I am under the impression that it will be several months until it does come out - if not longer.

As for the Masterclass in Newcastle next week:

This will be different than the DVD project though include much of it. Those who attend will get what's been called above as the "super secret PDF" though in printed and comb bound form.
There will be more focus on "Which Hand" techniques that currently remain publicly unpublished.
Personal instruction.
A guest performance and teach-in on Colin's brilliant handling and added technique of this routine.

If you already own Prevaricator - this goes miles and miles beyond what was in the original release. If you aren't familiar with Prevaricator, don't worry you'll get all the info that you need.

Also please note: Prevaricator isn't an effect, it's a series of techniques that may be applied to accomplish various effects. We'll be exploring all of those.

Lastly - the master class is an opportunity to talk about any of my working material that's currently on the market. We are not restricted to the time scheduled and I have been given the go ahead to go as long as needed if folks are happy to keep going.

Joel - I recently read Sessions and am a big fan of your thinking as well. I do hope we get a chance to meet someday.

I'm back on a plane tomorrow afternoon so forgive me if I'm tardy in future responses.

Thanks everyone.

-Patrick
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So you know we're all waiting to hear - how was the workshop?

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As promised here's my brief review of the Prevaricator Masterclass Patrick did on Sunday. If you have any questions pm me (though obviously don’t ask me to reveal any secrets).

We got:

Performances by Patrick of various routines using the Prevaricator principle (and that is the way to look at it, as a very useful principle rather than as one effect). For those of you who haven't seen him perform he has a playful manner that manages to convey warmth while remaining in control. I mention this because it is a balance that mentalists can struggle to get right I think (I certainly do) and also because your ability to work with people's emotions and to build rapport is crucial in learning this technique. From this comment you should understand that it is not really something for amateurs.

I would guess that people's questions will mainly be "how reliable is it?" and "what happens if it doesn't work." Both these questions were answered comprehensively with many techniques and subtleties to increase reliability and clever methods and routines to eliminate any sense of failure. This doesn't mean that it is foolproof (nothing is) but neither does it mean that you have to compromise with a weak "out".

We got a nice handout with detailed notes on the core principle, lots of other techniques and the various effects and routines. I already own the original Prevaricator book and these notes do indeed go a long way further. They also include the missing link that for me makes Prevaricator a usable tool.

One of the highlights for me was Colin's performance. Entertaining, bold, subtle and a great demonstration of the techniques in action. Nice one. "Cheeky" is the correct term I believe?

In addition we got demonstrations of some lock routines from Glemme. The one I saw I liked a lot. Unfortunately, I had to leave a little bit before the end in order to catch a train so I’m not sure what happened in the last half-hour.

I tried the Prevaricator techniques out informally last night in a couple of pubs and I was happy with my success rate and the reactions I got. I need lots of practice at this of course but I’m willing to put the time in. Its not something you can learn at home, you need strangers to practice on so be prepared to get social.

The down side? Hard to really think of anything I didn't like. Its a shame that Patrick didn’t bring the DVD rushes so we could see him in action with members of the public. It might also have been an idea to have found a few volunteer non-magicians for us to spend a little time practicing on but then again that would have taken up a lot of time and I personally needed to go away and think things through before practicing anyway. Minor quibbles. I’m very happy with the experience and would sign up for another workshop with Patrick at the drop of a hat. (Though not his hat because I don't think he ever removes it Smile )

One other thing that struck me was how keen Patrick was to give due credit for lots of the techniques to Ben Blau. Many people seem to be eager to take all the credit they can in this crazy old game and its very refreshing to see credit being given so fairly and honestly.

Thanks Patrick.

p.s. The rest of the convention was fantastic. As always.
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I didn't want to comment first as my opinion may seem bias... regardless Patrick was awesome in his lecture, workshop and actual performance!

Thanks for the kind words Stuart! Glad you liked it Smile

Very best wishes,
Col.

PS: Cheeky indeed Smile
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That sounds pretty great. WIsh I could have been there.

-Tim
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This often happens to me:

I want to buy what seems like a great product (in this case: (Old) Prevaticator). But then I read about some hyped, due to be released, new version that is vastly better than the original. Smile

I still kind of want to buy the original but for some reason it seems like a waste of money. So I keep delaying it untill the new improved version is available.

But a few days before the new version is availabe a new thread will appear here on the Café about the (even better) coming "Ultimate version"... Smile

Best wishes,
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I've been using (old) prevaricator literally since it came out (not in a deviant sexual way. Anyone thinking that is just being silly).
I loved it when I read this thread but I was baffled as to why a DVD had been made. I say that because, to me, there's a thing you do/say and it makes the magic happen... most of the time. And if not, then it's still ok, there are words for that also, and you're immediately linked to the next 'test'.
BUT... I'm rather excited to read all the above, and have a desire to incorporate the new nuances.

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Sometimes a DVD is made because people are too lazy to type...wait...let me give you a youtube link to my comment...Oh, how 2009 of me.

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Could someone perhaps lighten me on this issue?

There is a blog on Vanishing Inc Magic that says:

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Prevaricator DVD by Patrick Redford. We flew Patrick Redford (George Tait) to New York City last month to shoot our favorite effect of his. Imagine being able to tell when ANYONE is lying. The method? You literally just know. The construction of this piece is absolutely beautiful and he has taken in EVERYONE with this diabolical method. The mentalism world is jazzed over Prevaricator, and this innovative DVD will be the definitive work on specifically this trick and “tells” in general. We’ve introduced an interactive practice feature interface on the DVD, so you can watch people’s faces and practice “reading” their tells. Then Patrick points out what you should have recognized, and in this way you can practice in the comfort of your own home. Look for this within the next two months!


But, to my understanding, everyone is still waiting on the DVD.
Is there an idea of when this thing hits is market?

Thanks

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When the time is right...

...Very exciting stuff on there!

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On 2009-06-29 15:35, Colin wrote:
When the time is right...

...Very exciting stuff on there!

Col.


Yes! This could possibly be my best magic purchase yet! (other than books)
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Hi everyone,

We're glad that you are all excited about this DVD.

At Vanishing Inc. Magic we won't release something until we're 100% happy with it. This is the reason that Prevaricator+ isn't out yet; we're still working with our team to ensure that we get it exactly right.

We're very proud of this DVD and will be all too happy to post here once we have a better idea of the release date.

Thanks,

--Andi
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Prevaricator+ ???

It's now 2011. Did this ever release?

If it did I can not find it anywhere.

I am experimenting with various "which hand" effects.
Electronic and otherwise.

This just seemed like a much different approach. Hence the interest.

Thanks - David
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What are you talking about?
You can't find the dvd????
Magician create miracle but can't find where buy a dvd Smile
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