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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
My apologies if this has already been answered places, but I would like a real in depth answer.
Is there a huge difference between aluminum cups and brass cups? If so are we talking about a difference like dollar store cards to Bicycle cards, or a tiny difference. Also will either affect the final loads (one being better for it). I'm tight on cash too, but I would like a good set of cups. Thanks |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
I like copper over brass, but to answer your question it's all about "feel." The heavier metal cups are easier to handle, better balanced and are a joy to work with. Plus, they just look better.
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Mike… I whole heartily agree with Dave. My first set of metal Cups were aluminum, once I switched over to brass and copper my world changed. The Brass and copper Cups just feel better, plus I found that I am heavy handed and prefer a heavier Cup.
I like brass and copper Cups… I feel that brass Cups look best shiny and some copper Cups I let turn and some I polish, it depends on the shape of the Cup. Good luck with whatever set you end up with! Take care, Bruce |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
Mike:
If you are just starting, aluminum cups will work fine. Get a set with a deep enough depression in the top that the balls won't roll off easily. Once you have a routine well along the way to completion, then get some heavier cups.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
That's some great advice Bill, after all I'm only in Grade 8.
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djkuttdecks Special user Portland 662 Posts |
Mike, I started doing the cups and balls when I was just about your age... so reading your grade made me smile. It instantly reminded me of how I started. I got 3 tall, stackable, plastic, UGLY pea soup green cups from the flea market and some cotton balls from my parents bathroom and started practicing. My friend, that's all you need to get going. Before you buy some cups, I would suggest you find material to learn from, magic books etc. And check you cabinets for usable cups Just remember, no glass and no ceramics (like mugs). Shoot for some cheap stackable plastic cups. Then practice practice practice! PM me if you have any questions
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
DJ is right. In fact, if you have a place like Michael's or Hobby Lobby near you, or even a dollar store, go over and find some party cups that have a depression in the bottom and a kind of a skirt around them that will give you some attic space between the cups. These will work for starters.
Once you have a routine going, do some yard work or run errands for people to earn some extra cash to purchase that dream set of cups. DJ's boss would tell you the same thing!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
That's great,
I can bike down to a shopping centre nearby with a Michael's in it AND a dollar store. I'm also pretty sure the dollar store sells styrafoam balls of all sizes which could work in a routine. |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
You really need some weight, if not the cups at least in the balls. Go for something heavier than styrofoam. Small rubber balls out of the vending machine would work much better. Sometimes the dollar stores have a pack of those in matching colors, usually with one or more larger balls you can use for loads.
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
Great advise given above!
In partial defense of aluminum if you find a set that has been CNC'd from a solid block of alum., you do get more heft and feel in a lesser expensive cup! Maybe a set of alum. Mendoza's will come about somewhere! |
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Keith Mitchell Special user 799 Posts |
I was down at Hobby Lobby and saw some unfinished wooden cups for less than $10 maybe less than $5 can't remember the exact price. Only problem with these cups is that they stick to each other if you stack them, there might be a way to prevent them from sticking such as putting a metal ring around the cups similar to the beads on most cups. Again these cups are unfinished wood, an opportunity to paint these cups to any color/desing of your own choosen.
In fact I think I might just drive down there and buy these cups myself and see what I can come up with. Have fun! |
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Carlos Hampton Veteran user 363 Posts |
This is all you need for practice my friend http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=TA1796
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Jeff Dial Special user Kent, WA 533 Posts |
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On 2009-03-16 00:38, Dave V wrote: Didn't John Ramsay do his cups and balls with cardboard ice cream cups?
"Think our brains must be too highly trained, Majikthise" HHGG
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
The cups I'm referring to are not styrofoam cups. They are those "stadium" cups. They are considerably heavier than styrofoam. Remember, these are just for learning, not for professional performance.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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djkuttdecks Special user Portland 662 Posts |
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DJ's boss would tell you the same thing! Oh how right you are! -DJ |
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Mike… I read that you are in the 8th grade, but I still say to you buy the best of anything that you can. Maybe I was a weird kid, but when I was young I always set my goal on buying the best… be it magic, electric trains, slot cars etc. I have always been happy that I did, I have many worthwhile treasures from my youth and when I sold things off, I pretty much came out ahead.
Good luck learning the Cups; I wish that I would have started at your age. Take care, Bruce |
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Pecan_Creek Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts |
I am a cups and balls rookie and I got this set:
http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=MB5747 I haven't had any probles with them. Some of the more experienced here can comment on the pros and cons of this set, but I don't know the difference between a $200.00 set and these. Ignorance is bliss! |
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Mike Ross New user Vancouver, Canada 61 Posts |
Wow, that's some good ideas from everyone.
Thanks everyone for your time. |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
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On 2009-03-16 13:53, Pecan_Creek wrote: Those are fairly decent cups for the money. I have a set of these that Mike Rogers used. If they were good enough for him, they are good enough for anyone to learn on!
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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fortasse Inner circle 1201 Posts |
Re : the plastic, chrome cups at Magic Warehouse (referred to in the post from Carlos) : do they REALLY weigh 4.25 oz. each? Considering what they're made of, isn't that a bit surprising?
Fortasse |
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