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MagicSanta
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You may want to talk to Derek, he uses the name Vernon when ever I run across him.
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MagicSanta are you saying the Johnson book is inaccurate?
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On 2009-03-19 14:46, MagicSanta wrote:
You may want to talk to Derek, he uses the name Vernon when ever I run across him.


He will answer to the name because a lot of magicians aren't smart enough to know the difference, but on the magic boards on which he's participated, he's clearly gone by Derek Verner; for the articles he's written for model railroads and other subjects, his byline is D. Derek Verner; in the television special The Spirit of Magic, he went by Verner; and Verner is his given name.

According to the canon, Vernon didn't even choose the name Vernon. It was just easier to go with it in the face of the repeated misprints of his name in the media. Oddly, the name Marlo came about in a similar way, since he originally chose the name "Marko," and a misprint forced him to go with the name we know now.
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The "Long Sleep" story is told in the "Magic of Faucett Ross" book.
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Yup, that's the story.

Sorry, I had completely forgotten this yarn! Should think a little harder before I post...

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If you wish to discuss Vernon I can do so just as well as the next guy. I'm aware of Vernons real name, how it came about, all that good stuff. I'm also telling you the amazingly cranky Derek often uses the name Vernon, not legally, but he certainly has pride in who his father was...depending on when you catch him. One thing, those that do not know Vernons last name was Verner has nothing to do with their being 'smart', there isn't an inherent knowledge of Dai Vernon, it just means they have not read up on the man.

Jack, I'm not sure what you are asking, accurate about what? From what I understand, if you mean how he broke his arms, he got a job an an inspector at construction sites and the scaffling collapsed and he ended up breaking both arms.
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There has, however, been more than a little specualtion from a number of "name" guys in magic (I'll let them make themselves known, should they choose to do so). These people find the story of the wheelbarrow/bucket and fall, shall we say, a bit thin and convenient, as Vernon was widely known for his distaste of physical labor. These folks (I am NOT one of them!), suggest that it is more likely that he tried to see if some of his sleights would go unnoticed under fire in actual gambling. They believe that Vernon was "caught out" by some very tough characters, who decided to teach him a lesson and broke both of his arms. To avoid embarrassment, so say these speculators, he made up the story of the fall at the construction site.
Again, I for one have no reason to subscribe to this theory. But I know some heavy hitters who do.

As to his wife "making" Vernon take the job, well, if you're familiar with the story of "the long sleep" it seems unlikely she was able to "make" him do anything.


Well, that sure beats the h*** out of the Ben biography's main talking point! But I still like the idea that Vernon refused to allow them to amputate.... if that's true....
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MagicSanta I misunderstood your post, I thought you were refering me to Derek because the construction site story perhaps wasn't true. Anyway, same as you, true or not, that's the story I've always heard.
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The gamblers breaking his arms story is a hell of a lot more interesting than him falling working construction, which seems strange considering you'd think for someone who was a pro at silhouette cutting he'd want to keep his hands in good condition.

Daniel Madison used that whole "an ex card cheat who got caught and put into hospital" bs which I've never bought. If it is true, show me the money baby, SHOW ME THE MONEY.
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If you read Vernons column from Genii he (I think released as The Vernon Touch in book form) he says how he broke his arms and you can see his comments.

I refer to Derek because he has an interesting perspective of many events that is different that anyone else. I love the old guy, cranky he may be.
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If you wish to discuss Vernon I can do so just as well as the next guy. I'm aware of Vernons real name, how it came about, all that good stuff. I'm also telling you the amazingly cranky Derek often uses the name Vernon, not legally, but he certainly has pride in who his father was...depending on when you catch him. One thing, those that do not know Vernons last name was Verner has nothing to do with their being 'smart', there isn't an inherent knowledge of Dai Vernon, it just means they have not read up on the man.


I'm not lecturing you. I just know that we're not the only two people on this board, so I put things out there for the benefit of others as well.
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Good man....they should all know about Vernon any way. Over the years I keep noticing how he effected my view on magic.
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According to the canon, Vernon didn't even choose the name Vernon. It was just easier to go with it in the face of the repeated misprints of his name in the media. Oddly, the name Marlo came about in a similar way, since he originally chose the name "Marko," and a misprint forced him to go with the name we know now.


OpenT, if Marlo originally chose "Marko" then what was Marlo's real name?

Serious question.
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Ed "The Hit Man" Mawlowski (spelling may be off).
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On 2009-03-20 02:14, Open Traveller wrote:
I'm not lecturing you. I just know that we're not the only two people on this board, so I put things out there for the benefit of others as well.


Is it just me or are people on the Café getting really cranky?

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Open Traveller Open Traveller....second deal?
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Ok that was funny....lol
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On 2009-03-20 23:00, MagicSanta wrote:
Open Traveller Open Traveller....second deal?


Sorry, I don't get it.

edh, his original name was Edward Malikowski.
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See, good thing I questioned my spelling. Shall I notify Wikapedia, the magic directory, and other on line sources that they spelled his name wrong or shall ye?
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If you have the Johnny Thompson video set (You should.), Johnny mentions Vernon's construction accident ...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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