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Magnus Eisengrim
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It's a bit anticlimactic now, but here's my bit on "Schmul".

On Saturday, when the question was still open, I emailed the Kurt Weill Foundation (through http://www.threepennyopera.org and asked:

"Hello. I hope this is within the scope of what you do at http://www.threepennyopera.org

"The text notes the murder of Schmul Meier. What is the meaning of “Schmul”? Is it his name? Title? Descriptor? I have searched in vain for a solid answer.

"Thank you."

This morning, I got the reply:

"Schmul,' or 'Shmuel,' is a variant of Samuel, so it is Maier's first name. It may be that it is intended to sound like Yiddish, and so to imply that Maier is Jewish, but I'm not sure about that--it may be simply German for 'Samuel.'

"Thank you for your question; please let me know if you have any others.

With best wishes,
Dave Stein
Kurt Weill Foundation"

I'm still having fun with this. I'll be reading the Beggar's Opera this week, then start of the 3Penny.

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The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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I played minor characters in both "Beggers" and "Threepenny." They were a lot of fun. My favorite <?> moment would have to be as Peachum sent out his beggers. As a begger, I decided my charcter would tie back his leg with a belt to look like a cripple. One night I took too long getting the belt in place and as I was trying to get off stage, one legged, Peachum came up behind me and shoved me off stage! Great moment theatrically, but I almost broke my leg!
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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Forgive me for laughing out loud, Ed. That is a very funny moment. Thanks.

(And I cringe as I imagine breaking my own leg.)

John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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In retrospect, it was! At the time it was; "That *#&@*&#*&(! I almost got killed!"
"There's no time to lose," I heard her say.
"Catch your dreams before they slip away."
"Dying all the time, lose your dreams and you could lose your mind.
Ain't life unkind?"
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Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife

The rarely heard final verse—not included in the original play, but added by Brecht for the 1931 movie—expresses the theme and compares the glittering world of the rich and powerful with the dark world of the poor:

Denn die einen sind I'm Dunkeln
Und die andern sind I'm Licht
Und man siehet die I'm Lichte
Die I'm Dunkeln sieht man nicht.

There are some who are in darkness
And the others are in light
And you see the ones in brightness
Those in darkness drop from sight.
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On Apr 9, 2017, balducci wrote:
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife

The rarely heard final verse—not included in the original play, but added by Brecht for the 1931 movie—expresses the theme and compares the glittering world of the rich and powerful with the dark world of the poor:

Denn die einen sind I'm Dunkeln
Und die andern sind I'm Licht
Und man siehet die I'm Lichte
Die I'm Dunkeln sieht man nicht.

There are some who are in darkness
And the others are in light
And you see the ones in brightness
Those in darkness drop from sight.


Nice find!
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Fascinating discussion! Here’s my favorite recording of this classic song. Quite possibly the “swingiest” version, performed live at the 1966 Cote D’Azur Jazz Festival by Ella Fitzgerald with the Duke Ellington Orchestra.

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On Mar 29, 2009, stoneunhinged wrote:
And John, I forgot the question about "Preis". That goes way beyond my German ability. I did, however, do a quick online check of the Luther translation of the passage in the Bible about Judas and the word is not used there.

In today's German--which might be quite different from Brecht's in this regard--no one asks about "price" when talking about goods and services; rather, they talk about what something "costs". "Preis" (sounds just like the English "price") is usually used in the sense of "prize", as in "award". That's why I thought maybe "reward" is better. But I'm unsure.


Preis really just means price here, the cost of something. No biblical connotation whatsoever. The thirty pieces of silver Judas got for his treason would be called "Judaslohn" (blood money).
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Thanks, Uli.

Never heard "Judaslohn" either. But then, I don't go to church a hell of a lot. Smile
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Thanks Uli. Nice to see that the discussion is still alive!
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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Ahhh, this brings back memories. In one of my college literature classes we studied Three Penny Opera and our professor brought in a vinyl recording for us to listen to.
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For Weill fans, I highly recommend this recording:

https://www.amazon.com/Charming-Palast-O......ax+raabe
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Thank you stoneunhinged for your origial post and all others who brought in new (old) stuff. It put me in Weimar Germany for awhile. Alas, sometimes I think we're in Weimar now. Stone mentioned he listened to Brecht 10x. That's about how many times I've watched Cabaret. Lynn
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