The products are being shipped 50 diff. products at a time for inventory purposes until all is spoken for. The products will be promoted a few at a time. I was told that the prices will be about the same if not less.

Much of that stuff was made in the OLD factory by OLD employees....well, China gets more biz. Hope david did ok on the sale.

Get your copy of Pleasant Nightmares while you can!!!

David has maintained the book titles.

Richard

Ah good. I've got one for him. ;-)

Wow...my first exposure to magic retail was an Adams spinner rack in a locally owned drug store when I was eight years old. I hope MM carries on the tradition well.

As an aside (and if anyone can direct me to a previous thread) is there anything other than "knock off" product (which I wholeheartedy abhor!) that separates MM from the vast majority of wholesale suppliers?

Adama products are where I got my start in magic. When I was 9 and bought my ball and vase and my coin box, I felt like I was a real professional magician.

Even today when I see the Adams products on a rotating rack, it brings back very fond memories.

David

Truly sad news. An Icon has passed.

What else separates them? Lets see, they are making magic affordable for many, manufacturing several quality pieces, and keeping many magic dealers in business.

Yes, they carry knock offs, but so do Mak, Fun Inc, Loftus, Magic City, and possibly even Murphys.

Mak even carries knock offs of their own products!

Most manufactures, dealers and distributors are in business to make money, and that is what matters.

Yes, Loftus had ripped off the entire SS Adams line which was one of the reasons it was sold.

But that does not make rip offs right!!

Richard

I always loved Adams Magic because it came with my name on it already 8-) The end of an era indeed!

AC

That's really sad. I always loved S.S. Adams

It's too bad to see the S.S. Adams name become just another brand.

Does anyone know why David Haversat sold out or why he couldn't carry the S.S. Adams torch any longer? I can understand selling if he was losing money in the business but now he appears to have his own Thurston Magic line so I'm not sure what the business considerations were.

From what I understand, it had to do with government required testing and the costs associated with it due to the location of where many of the products were manufactured. There was an interesting post elsewhere on the required lead testing on double headed nickles...

A lot of it had to do with the testing. It roughly costs $1500 per item to have it tested. This entire line had been ripped off by Loftus or Empire (I can't rember which). So he was looking at over a 1/4 millon in testing alone. Then they started changing the warning labels and packaging for stuff. It was way out of hand.

David did a lot to revitalize and reestablish the S.S. Adams name but simply could not keep up trying to keep it a viable money making busines. Selling to Magic Makers was the best way to try to keep the name in the country and still going.

Yes, the goverment did want him to tested the double sided coins. Thank you to the lovely goverment ideas. It was their coins, put together back to back with a little Elmer's glue. Maybe the goverment should start testing their own products.

Richard

I met with Chris Adams, the grandson of S.S. Adams, at the S.S. Adams factory back in February of 2009, who told me then that the new stringent regulations being put into place would be the undoing of the company. Sadly, he was right.

In addition to having to compete with products being made in China (many of Adams' own that were copied by others), he told me that one U.S. magic company threatened to send the entire S.S. Adams line to China and pay someone there to make knock offs of them if Adams did not agree to sell its prodcuts to that U.S. magic company for a lower price than it was selling them for.

So, the government, China and one of our very own businesses here in the U.S. (which will remain unnamed) all had a hand in the sale of S.S. Adams. By the way, Magic Makers was not the U.S. company I am referring to above. Magic Makers just happened to be the beneficiary of S.S. Adams' misfortune. Let's hope that Magic Makers keeps the brand name of S.S. Adams going strong with good products. It would also be nice if Magic Makers could keep the manufacturing base in Neptune, New Jersey, where Adams was based.

Given the above info, can someone tell me why Magic Makers will have a better chance of carrying on the Adams name than Adams?

Maybe Magic Makers have deeper pockets to pay for all the testing required.

Demanding a mint to pay for mandatory testing supposedly in the name of keeping the kiddies safe just so the Government can line its pockets...

I can't wait to read about the sharp decline of fatality rates among Adams customers once all the testing is done. I don't want to die of lead poisoning from the Imp Bottle.

I understand perfectly why the other U.S. magic maker won't be named but I'd sure like to know what brand not to buy from anymore.

Another reason next election day to OUST ALL INCUMBANTS. ARGHHH... CHANGE? HAH! YES, LET'S CHANGE THE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.

Stinkin government trying to make sure poisenous products aren't being flooded into our market.

I would just put a disclosure on each product.

Double Sided Nickle

2 Nickels $0.10 (Business Cost)
Glue $0.02 (Business Cost)
Packaging $0.35 (Business Cost)
Distribution $0.22 (Business Cost)
Insurance, etc. $0.22 (Business Cost)
Testing $9.50 (Government Sanctioned)
EPA Regulations $2.50 (Government Sanctioned)
Health Insurance $0.76 (Government Sanctioned)
Additional Ins. $2.00 (Due to additional litigation as a result of government regulations)
Profit $0.09

Original Cost of Product $0.99
Cost of New and Improved Model $15.75